Posted on 12/16/2008 5:34:52 AM PST by Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!
Forty five percent (45%) of U.S. voters say it is likely President-elect Obama or one of his top campaign aides was involved in the unfolding Blagojevich scandal in Illinois, including 23% who say it is Very Likely.
Just 11% say it is not at all likely, according to a new Rasmussen Reports national telephone survey taken Thursday and Friday nights.
Voters nationally are more skeptical than those in Illinois. Thirty-two percent (32%) of Illinois voters said in a survey late last week that there is no way Obama was involved in the Blagojevich case, while only 13% said it is Very Likely that the president-elect was involved, with another 13% saying it is Somewhat Likely.
The Chicago Tribune on Saturday reported that Obama’s White House Chief of Staff Rahm Emanuel had conversations with Blagojevich’s staff about candidates who were acceptable to the president-elect to fill his vacant Senate seat. Obama resigned from the Senate following his election as president.
Other news organizations have since confirmed the Tribune’s report, but no official word has come from Emanuel or the president-elect. Up until now, no one in a position of authority is saying that Obama or anyone on his staff is guilty of wrongdoing.
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It is beyond sickening!!!!
It really is like a huge world government set-up with a pro U.N. Obama at the helm. I think he is beyond evil and he makes my skin crawl beyond words or politics.
I’m saying we RAISE A STINK and make sure that any “policies” that 0bama implements are accompanied by the taint of corruption.
I’m also saying that you shouldn’t get frustrated when you’re unable to sway any of his supporters to our cause over his corruption - they simply don’t care.
Not happening. If it did, Fitzgerald would be guilty of the same crimes as the Blog. I think Fitzgerald moved when he did because the Chicago Tribune let the cat out of the bag before Fitz wanted it done and so Fitz had to act before evidence could be destroyed.
It also puts Obama in a position where he cannot fire Fitzgerald. If he does, it means Obama is dirty (how can he not be) and would be obstructing justice.
Is there Good News?....Yes, there is.
Christ will return ....!
Why does come as no surprise to be that Obama hires a criminal defense attorney as his White House counsel.
The ending hasn’t changed - I just checked. :)
Why does Fitz want Obama's report on hold is the question of the day?
When all else is lost....there's still HOPE!
This is silly. Even Blagojevich himself is recorded as stating that the Obama team was unwilling to “pay to play”. Some people will believe whatever they want in spite of the truth.
But nobody cares it would take the msn’s beating a dead horse to CHANGE peoples minds.
I was once told something by a man for whom I had the greatest respect. He said, "The only reason you and I are honest men is because no one has, as yet, offered the amount it would take to buy us." I didn't want to believe that about myself, but none of us can ever be certain until we're tested.
If Fitzgerald tipped Preel Hussein to spare him and the nation, how did he know Preel Hussein wouldn’t (somehow) pass that on to Blago compromising the investigation?
I went through the affidavit submitted by FBI agent Daniel W. Cain trying to sort out who these people are. Here is what I've compiled so far:
Individual A (informant?)Individual B
- A subject, not a target
- No crimminal history
- Associate of Rod Blagojevich
- Has assisted in fundraising for Blag
Individual C
- Wanted help with a business venture
- Blag approached Individual B to hold a fundraiser
Individual D
- Former member of the U.S. House of Representatives
- Believed to be attempting to assist Blag in passing a capital bill worth billions of dollars that would benefit Highway Contractor 1 and the trade association with which he is affiliated
Highway Contractor 1
- Blag believes to be close to Senate Candidate 5
- Blag had a prior bad experience with Senate Candidate 5 not keeping his word
Lobbyist 1
- Officer of a company that is a large supplier of concrete in the state of Illinois
- Active in one of the largest trade associations, ACPA (American Concrete Pavement Association)
- 1.8 billion in Illinois Tollway funding that will benefit Highway Contractor 1 and the trade association with which he is affiliated)
Fundraiser A
- One of the contacts for Contributor 1
- Blago stated that he knows Lobbyist 1 is “down there (Springfield, Illinois)” with Contributor 1 “pushing a bill.”
- Assured Blago that Contributor 1 would be good for the donation because Lobbyist 1 “got in his face.”
Hospital Executive 1
- Chairman of Friends of Blago
- discussed “60" (believed to be $60,000) that they have “in hand” from a fundraiser held the prior evening by the president of Engineering Firm 1
Deputy Governor A
- Chief Executive Officer of Children’s Memorial Hospital
- Has not made a recent campaign contribution to Blag.
Contributor 1
- Blago asked Deputy Governor A to put the list of Tribune articles together
Engineering Firm 1
- Contributor 1 is listed on the Friends of Blagojevich spreadsheet as someone from 18 whom Friends of Blagojevich was seeking $100,000 in contributions and Lobbyist 1 is listed as one of the contacts for Contributor 1
- Blago stated that he knows Lobbyist 1 is “down there (Springfield, Illinois)” with Contributor 1 “pushing a bill.”
Advisor A
- Received in excess of $10 million from the State of Illinois during each of fiscal years 2004 through 2008
- Blag is supporting a bill that would provide billions of dollars for infrastructure and would benefit companies like Engineering Firm 1
Advisor B
- A former Deputy Governor under Blag who is currently a lobbyist
Spokesman
- A Washington D.C.-based consultant
- Said they should leverage the President-elect’s desire to have Senate Candidate 1 appointed
- Agreed that the three-way deal would be a better plan than Blag appointing Senate Candidate 2
- Official spokesperson for the Governor’s office
Senate Candidate 1 (Valerie Jarrett)Senate Candidate 2
- An advisor to the President-elect,
- CNN is reporting that Senate Candidate 1 does not want the open Senate seat
Senate Candidate 3
- Blago told Spokesman to leak to a particular columnist for the Chicago Sun-Times, that Senate Candidate 2 is in the running for the vacant Senate seat
- Blago and Spokesman discussed specific language that should be used in the Sun Times column and arguments as to why Senate Candidate 2 made sense
- Sun Times column on November 7, 2008, indicates references to the specific language and arguments regarding Senate Candidate 2 as a potential candidate
No information
Senate Candidate 4Senate Candidate 5 (Jesse Jackson Jr)
- A Deputy Governor of the State of Illinois
- Blago states he could “count on [Senate Candidate 4], if things got hot, to give [the Senate seat] up and let me parachute over there.”
Senate Candidate 6
- Would “raise money” for Blag's re-election
- Blag said he might “get some (money) up front, maybe” from Senate Candidate 5
- Blag described an earlier approach by an associate of Senate Candidate Five as follows: “We were approached ‘pay to play.’ That, you know, he’d raise me 500 grand might be able to cut a deal with Senate Candidate 5
President-Elect Advisor
- Believed to be a wealthy person from Illinois
- Blago wants Harris to tell President-elect Advisor that “this has nothing to do with anything else we’re working on but the Governor wants to put together a 501(c)(4)” and “can you guys help him. . . raise 10, 15 million.”
- Blago wanted “[President-elect Advisor] to get the word today,” and that when “he asks me for the Fifth CD thing I want it to be in his head.”
Yet...we have watched the media and Obama deny any Obama or staff involvement. It is NUTS!
Here is what I posted yesterday and is my best guess:
Because it will eliminate any excuse for providing false statements. If pressed to disclose right away, the perps could always say they didn't have enough time to check all their records.
Fitz could also have someone inside the Obama campaign reporting on attempts to obstruct justice and as more time that passes the more likely some will conspire to lie to Fitz.
Fitz already has enough info to indict lots of people and if he is taking a closer look at the Rezko-Obama real estate deal; he's looking for info to possibly indict Obama and Blog's wife. Rezko would not sell part of his lot to Obama and render his lot unbuidable without some plan to get paid off. There is also the recent discovery that Obama doesn't even own his own house. His former boss at his law firm is the owner. Think there isn't something sleazy about that deal.
The Secret Service sees their primary responsibility as protecting the president. They do nothing, even "seeing" what the president is doing, that gets in the way of that. They want the president comfortable with having them around 24/7 and not try to avoid them. If that means driving the president to his girlfriend's house and guarding the bedroom door that's what they'll do.
I believe they will do the same with obamma lamma ding dong.
No doubt about that.
Possibly, Preel Hussein was discouraged from doing this by the simple mechanics of Federal Title III wiretap protocol. Before Hussein was given access, he would have had to sign a document stating he understood revealing any information he gained from that access to unauthorized personnel was a felony punishable by 20 years in a Federal prison. No, he wouldn't have even told his Chief of Staff.
If the above is true, no worries for 0bama. Same goes for you, move along, nothing to derail here.
BTW, welcome to FR
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