Posted on 12/16/2008 9:41:55 AM PST by 2ndDivisionVet
I don’t want GM, Ford, and Chrysler to drop dead. I want the UAW to drop dead. Until the UAW is broken, the big three will constantly operate on the very edge of disaster.
Pat Buchanan can go.... well, I can’t SAY what he can go do or I’ll get Banned from FR!
The 1950’s weren’t so bad, my friend.
When will he just go away...
When will Pat just go away?
Because at some point it just becomes throwing good money at bad. 14 billion here, 14 billion there, pretty soon it adds up to real money Pat.
Having been born in 1960, I will have to take your word for it (missed them by 35 days!) However, it’s not the 1950’s anymore.
At almost the same time, we were typing almost the same sentence. That’s pretty neat.
And just who allowed the UAW to get as big as they are? A pox on both their houses.
I actually agree with him. I mostly just feel that the UAW needs to be broken.
I would reluctantly tolerate a big three bailout in the interests of national security, so that we have companies that have the capability of manufacturing weapons should we get involved in a conventional conflict. However, the UAW has hamstrung the auto makers to the point that they can’t fulfill this function anyway. With that in mind, I see no reason to bailout the people who got this crap started to begin with.
I don’t read the article as saying “Break the UAW”; I read it as “shovel more money at them”.
Correct me if I am wrong but did Chrysler not repay their lon from the 80’s?
Depends on what color your skin was.
With this statement, Pat proves he is still stuck in the 1940's. Idiotic, but his observation about Reagan's pro-American stance is spot on. Reagan understood the difference between free trade as an ideology and Kool-Aid drinking free trade as carried to the extreme we have today-- a class of privileged plutocrats like the politicians, the U.A.W. and their servant-enablers who suckle from the government teat, and the rest of us who are expected to pay the freight.
And the funny thing about Reagan's philosophy, is that he is still loved and respected by the Japanese-- they understand a leader who will look out for the interests of our own (American) middle class is also looking out for the interest of Japan's middle class. The reason is simple: If America is transformed from a society of rulers and the ruled, Japan may not be that far behind. How badly we need another Reagan! And maybe he or she is out there, possibly running a state like Alaska or Louisiana.
Pat doesn’t get the basic premise.
We don’t want GM out of business.
We want the union out of GM.
And that isn’t going to happen with $50 billion in taxpayer money funneled straight into UAW pockets.
I hear ya, Pat. And I agree with you regarding the damage Washington has wrought on American manufacturing over the years.
But nostalgia doesn’t get the job done, my friend. Two wrongs don’t make a right, and these bailouts are wrongs.
Enough of bigwig con-men and union extortionists holding our country hostage. Enough of paying the ransoms they demand. Enough of the extortion.
They wanna drive this country off the cliff with Washington at the wheel? Fine, let’s go. Right now, instead of waiting until they’re dead and buried, having lived a life of luxury paid for by my sweat.
Enough.
The party is dead, anyway. Rebuilding has got to start somewhere - and smashing the UAW/Democrat money machine is a good beginning.
Pat's problem is that he thinks Republicans can actually get back into the game with a little populist tweaking...not this time. If they want to play again they are going to have to step back for a few years, let Obama fail in Carter-like fashion, then attempt a return as vigorous advocates of small government. It may not work, but the current corrupt and bloated Republican Party heirarchy is not sustainable.
Pat is an idiot!
I watched the Senate ‘debate’.
The Republicans ‘fell’ into the Dem cesspool of ‘debate’ again. They’re like Charlie Brown to the Dems Lucy. They fall for it and look bad every time. (Of course it doesn’t help for the MSM and folks like Pat to denegrade their points every time.)
I just want to know where will the jobs come from when businesses refuse to hire workers? And I do mean REFUSE!
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