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Mitt Romney : A Republican Stimulus Plan
National Review ^ | Dec 19,2008 | Mitt Romney

Posted on 12/20/2008 3:09:04 PM PST by SeekAndFind

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To: Finny
Won't talk issues? Gee, I thought I was pointing out that you agreed with Romney on the majority of the issue points.

1. "This is time for economic stimulus,"

Introductory paragraph, which you dismiss because you "expect it's stimulus directed by coercive government instead of free markets, free wills, and self-interest." Sorry, bud, but that's just you projecting. The rest of the op-ed is his proposal in outline. Do you think we are not in need of a stimulus?

2. Romney recommends that "The Fed should continue to expand the money supply. And, it should confirm that it will not tolerate deflation — the pain of inflation pales in comparison." When in doubt, print more money.

I agree with you. Inflating the money supply is not what we need. Getting bad debt out of it is what we need.

3. "We should lower tax rates for middle-income families and eliminate their tax on savings altogether — no tax on interest, dividends or capital gains. Let’s also align our corporate tax rate with those of competing nations. "

So, something you agree with, but refuse to credit because you think it not enough. But, eliminating taxes on dividends, cap gains and savings interest would benefit all classes.

4. He talks about the need to "spend" on infrastructure and modernizing military equipment, observes that environmental and other regulations make infrastructure spending a slow returner

Another point you basically agree with, right?

5. Romney says, "We should also invest to free us from our dependence on foreign oil, not by playing venture capitalist, but by funding basic research in renewables, material science, combustion, nuclear reprocessing, and the like..." Inquiring minds want to know, "invest" with whose money??? And THIS inquiring mind believes ... It is a myth, and Romney embraces the myth.

Again, you project. Romney suggests funding basic research, and specifically mentions nuke and combustion efficiencies. Energy independence for America is a worthwhile goal, that would reduce the ability of foreign govts, oil market speculators and OPEC to manipulate our economy.

While you might argue that such research should be private sector only, I'd rather see it than GM and the UAW getting money.

6. " ... states should first take advantage of the downturn to do some needed cost cutting and restructuring,"

Another you basically agree with, but dismiss as "obvious". If it's so obvious, why haven't the other Fed plans been highlighting it? CA could certainly use some downsizing and restructuring. Instead, it's seeking a bailout.

7. "Republicans should also lay down a gauntlet: All new spending projects should be selected by the responsible federal agency according to published criteria, not by congresspersons and senators based upon favors and politics." In other words, putting the government fox in charge of the henhouse is smarter than putting elected representatives in charge of it.

To me, it's just a choice between the fox and the weasel. I'd like a more fleshed out proposal on this, before replacing earmarking reps with empire building bureaucrats. Perhaps a good check and balance between the two branches instead of trusting one or the other (what a concept).

8. Romney says: "It is essential ... that Congress and the president commit to reform entitlement spending as soon as the economy recovers. With ... entitlements already reaching 60 percent of federal spending ... this can be delayed no longer."

9. Romney says, We must also be careful to avoid burdening the economy with excessive regulation in response to the need to reform regulatory oversight of the financial sector. Going too far could cripple the entire industry .... And we should make it clear that Washington will not act to virtually impose unions on small business by eliminating the right of workers to vote by secret ballot in the workplace ...."

So, two more you agree with, but dismiss because of whom is saying the words.

What elements do you think are needed for a good GOP proposed stimulus package, that Romney did not include? How would you modify the above proposals that you agree with, but think flawed?

261 posted on 12/24/2008 9:24:53 AM PST by LexBaird (Behold, thou hast drinken of the Aide of Kool, and are lost unto Men.)
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To: FreeReign
Here's an idea. Why don't you comment on what he said.

Because what he's said and what he's done are often diamterically opposed.

The man is a snake-oil salesman.
262 posted on 12/24/2008 9:27:09 AM PST by Antoninus (America didn't turn away from conservatism, they turned away from many who faked it. - Mark Sanford)
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To: ethics
If Romney can continue to put forth his ideas, he will be the nominee of the GOP in 2012 & become President!

Then you can vote for him, because I won't. I refuse to contribute to the Massachusefication of America.
263 posted on 12/24/2008 9:29:49 AM PST by Antoninus (America didn't turn away from conservatism, they turned away from many who faked it. - Mark Sanford)
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To: Jim Robinson
What he says and what he does are two different things.

And therein lies the problem. Frankly, I'm amazed that so many so-called conservatives are mesmerized by this guy. He's got political-class-charlatan-stink all over him.
264 posted on 12/24/2008 9:32:40 AM PST by Antoninus (America didn't turn away from conservatism, they turned away from many who faked it. - Mark Sanford)
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To: Antoninus
Here's an idea. Why don't you comment on what he said.

Because what he's said and what he's done are often diamterically opposed. The man is a snake-oil salesman.

No.

Three things.

Mitt isn't in power to do anything right now. The election is four years off. What is needed right now are voices in opposition to Obama making the case in public why Obama is wrong. In this case what is more important right now are comments about what Mitt says in opposition to Obama.

About Mitt and 2012 since you, others (and Mitt) are so inclined to think about that I myself would prefer a new candidate so we don't get the same kind of crackup that we got in 2008. Mitt of course is not a new candidate.

About your characterization of Mitt, it is more accurate to say that what Mitt says now and what he did in the past in Massachusetts are in many cases opposed. My description implies a (late)change in Mitt's political positions. That is different and more accurate than your characterization which implies that he talks one way and then he governs a different way. That is not the case.

265 posted on 12/24/2008 10:27:26 AM PST by FreeReign
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To: Antoninus
And therein lies the problem. Frankly, I'm amazed that so many so-called conservatives are mesmerized by this guy. He's got political-class-charlatan-stink all over him.

No and no again.

Two things.

There are more than a few posters on this thread who are neither mesmerized by Mitt nor at this point in time are supporting Mitt for President in 2012. Perhaps you are amazed by some posters because you don't understand their point.

About Mitt being a political class charlatan I would say that most politicians give that appearance. Even the guy I was for in 2008 Fred Thompson took some less than conservative positions in the past and then changed his positions afterward to become more conservative.

266 posted on 12/24/2008 10:34:33 AM PST by FreeReign
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To: SeekAndFind

What really hurt Romney were his flip-flops and insincerity. What statements Romney makes now, you could find him saying the exact opposite in the past. During the primary, Huckabee and McCain were able to deflect criticisms from Romney by drawing attention to his flip-flops. Huckabee referred to Romney as the candidate of change; As in changing his positions every five weeks.

My advice to Romney would be for him to stick with his positions he took during the 2008 primary and not deviate from them for the next four years. His biggest obstacle is proving himself sincere in his change of heart on a host of issues.


267 posted on 12/25/2008 12:14:57 PM PST by yongin (Converting people to Mormonism makes the world more conservative)
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To: Ingtar

“There was no group that Romney could pick up ...”

Sure there are, people who want someone who actually articulates and support broad-based tax-cut economics ...

“The first is that tax cuts are part of the solution. Harvard professor and economist Greg Mankiw points out that recent research confirms that tax cuts have a greater multiplier effect than new spending — more economic bang for the federal buck.” - Mitt Romney


268 posted on 01/01/2009 7:23:59 PM PST by WOSG (Obama - a born in the USA socialist)
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To: WOSG

You mean that very same group he would have lost when he also came out very publicly for the bail-outs?


269 posted on 01/01/2009 9:11:45 PM PST by Ingtar (Americans have truly let America down. A sad day.)
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