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To: little jeremiah
It also looks (again, what do I know - just have my natural born mother wit to guide me) that there are indeed three kinds of citizens - naturalized, natural born, and citizens who are “regular” citizens

And this is where Donofrio's argument disintegrates into pure fantasy because nowhere, and I mean nowhere, is there any case law that recognizes this "three-tiered" (Natural Born, Naturalized, Regular) definition of U.S. citizen.

This concept exists nowhere in the Constitution and is wholly a product of Donofrio's imagination.

On several threads a simple request has been asked. Show us case law.

You seem like a smart guy. Have you ever asked yourself why these cases keep getting tossed? Have you ever asked yourself why no prominent Republicans have challenged this? Why no conservative pundits mention this (except to belittle the Kool-Aid drinkers)? Why Hillary didn't use it? Keyes when he ran for Senate? Nobody? Are we to believe that somehow Obama's eligibility slipped unchallenged past all these career politicians (or everyone from the President on down is part of a grand conspiracy)?

Just think about it. Obama isn't smarter than everybody else. None of his opponents would have given him a free pass on eligibility. There is no grand conspiracy.

239 posted on 12/23/2008 11:06:32 PM PST by Drew68
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To: Drew68

False trail ... Obama is black, and if for instance clinton questioned his eligibility and had him disqualified, she could not win with zero black votes. Black people vote in block. But that was a nice try.


242 posted on 12/23/2008 11:18:16 PM PST by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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To: Drew68

1. Why 0bama has hidden/sealed/erased/made unavailable practically every single record of his entire life....

2. I don’t give a flying rat’s patootie about why prominent Repubs haven’t mentioned it. None of them (or precious few) have any spine, guts, fire or courage anyway. “Reaching across the aisle” appears to be the standard, and that’s why elections are lost. Conservative talkshow hosts? Aka political entertainers, with egos as big as their audiences? Keyes, when he ran against 0bama for Senator - a Senator doesn’t have to be a natural born citizen, can even be naturalized, so inapplicable.

3. Hillary? Probably because the rats all have tons of dirt on each other so it’s kind of MAD - mutually assured destruction - “If I go down, YOU go down - hahaha!” type of thing.

4. 0bama’s eligibility didn’t SLIP past anyone. It’s just that it wasn’t brought into public notice until this summer.

5. When the issue of birth certifacate surface, McCain showed his, I’ve seen it here on FR. How come 0bama went through the fake COLB song and dance, and didn’t pony up his real BC as did McCain? That’s the real question you should be asking.


243 posted on 12/23/2008 11:20:00 PM PST by little jeremiah (Leave illusion, come to the truth. Leave the darkness, come to the light.)
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To: Drew68

“And this is where Donofrio’s argument disintegrates into pure fantasy because nowhere, and I mean nowhere, is there any case law that recognizes this “three-tiered” (Natural Born, Naturalized, Regular) definition of U.S. citizen.”

So you say, others say different. It remains to be seen. But this is all predicated on his being born in Hawaii, or in the US in general, and he has not proved or given one bit of evidence that this is so.

Your argument over and over again is that “there is no controlling legal authority” for him to have to prove anything, which goes about as far as a two legged blind dog can run.


246 posted on 12/23/2008 11:22:21 PM PST by little jeremiah (Leave illusion, come to the truth. Leave the darkness, come to the light.)
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