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To: El Gato; hoosiermama; justiceseeker93; LucyT; Chief Engineer; Fred Nerks; pissant; Calpernia; ...
I know that Amendment XX supercedes Amendment XII, but I have a question regarding how Section 3 of XX is worded.

It's very clear that if the President-elect dies before January 20, then the Vice President-elect becomes President, who then would pick a VP subject to approval by Congress.

Correct so far?

However, in Section 3, it says that if the President elect shall have failed to qualify, then the Vice President elect shall act as President until a President shall have qualified.

If this statement is taken literally, then the use of the phrase "a President" as opposed to "the President" takes on a diferent meaning. If "THE" President-elect has failed to qualify, then there must be action taken to find someone who would qualify to be "A" President.

In other words, despite of who you or I would like to see as President, there is nothing in the Constitution that dictates who Congress must pick to replace the disqualified President-elect.

For example, let's suppose that, as a result of the Jan 16 SCOTUS conference, at least four Justices agree to hold an emergency session to hear Berg's injunction, prior to Jan 20, but here's where it gets into the gray area. and they are given several possible actions on which to vote. vote to require Obama to prove that he is Constitutionally qualified to be the President.

And, you know what? SCOTUS could very well require that he produce more evidence than just his vault birth certificate.

We have no conclusive proof that his mother was a U.S. citizen at the time of his birth. We have no conclusive proof of who was his biological father. We have a huge list of historical documents that are missing. Who really is Barack Obama? Who is even qualified to vouch for him?

Unless Obama provides the evidence that SCOTUS requests by the date requested (his vault birth certificate, for starters), he will be considered as "failed to qualify," and the Vice President-Elect would be first sworn in as Vice-President, and then, sworn in as acting President until someone is chosen to be President.

There is nothing in Section 3 that defines what would be the procedure if the President-elect was disqualified prior to January 20.

SCOTUS has the power to invalidate the entire election, if it was convinced that the DNC knew about Obama's citizenship problems and tried to hide it.

846 posted on 01/11/2009 7:15:35 PM PST by Polarik
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To: Polarik
he Vice President-Elect would be first sworn in as Vice-President, and then, sworn in as acting President until someone is chosen to be President.

I don't think any "swearing in" is required for an Acting President, the Vice President would just assume the duties of President.

In other words, despite of who you or I would like to see as President, there is nothing in the Constitution that dictates who Congress must pick to replace the disqualified President-elect.

This is not quite true. Section 4 of the XXth amendment states:

The Congress may by law provide for the case of the death of any of the persons from whom the House of Representatives may choose a President whenever the right of choice shall have devolved upon them, and for the case of the death of any of the persons from whom the Senate may choose a Vice President whenever the right of choice shall have devolved upon them.

That implies that the list of "persons from whom the House of Representatives may choose a President", is limited. So where is that limit to be found?

It's in the XIIth amendment:

from the persons having the highest numbers not exceeding three on the list of those voted for as President, the House of Representatives shall choose immediately, by ballot, the President.

The XIIth also specifies *how* the House is to proceed.

in choosing the President, the votes shall be taken by states, the representation from each state having one vote; a quorum for this purpose shall consist of a member or members from two-thirds of the states, and a majority of all the states shall be necessary to a choice.

847 posted on 01/11/2009 7:57:57 PM PST by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: Polarik
3, it says that if the President elect shall have failed to qualify, then the Vice President elect shall act as President until a President shall have qualified.

Discussed this the other evening...."until a President shall have qualified" may be the next election ...four years.

IMO the transition to someone other than 0 would actually be smoothest after he is sworn in.....No questions Biden become President....Liberal sob during BOs mia culpa.

849 posted on 01/11/2009 11:22:34 PM PST by hoosiermama (Berg is a liberal democrat. Keyes is a conservative. Obama is bringing us together already!)
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