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A drink, a puff - legally
Philadelphia Inquirer ^ | 01/04/09 | Kathy Boccella

Posted on 01/04/2009 7:55:07 AM PST by Kid Shelleen

Smoke thickens the air at Kilgallen's as the blue-collar crowd knocks back pints of Guinness at the glinty wooden bar. It has been that way for 60 years at the mom-and-pop joint in Havertown, and despite Pennsylvania's indoor-smoking ban, --snip--

Upscale restaurants say customers no longer linger over drinks after dinner because they can't smoke, Christie said, "and if you know anything about the restaurant business, you make your dollars on alcohol, not the food

(Excerpt) Read more at philly.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: Pennsylvania
KEYWORDS: nannystate; pufflist
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1 posted on 01/04/2009 7:55:08 AM PST by Kid Shelleen
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To: Kid Shelleen
Just wait until the government takes over health care and the auto business..
2 posted on 01/04/2009 7:56:01 AM PST by Kid Shelleen (Barack the Messiah: Never in the field of US politics have so many waited so long for so little.)
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To: Kid Shelleen
if you know anything about the restaurant business, you make your dollars on alcohol, not the food

Someone should tell this to McDonald's.

ML/NJ

3 posted on 01/04/2009 8:02:16 AM PST by ml/nj
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To: ml/nj
So lots of people will no longer get boozed up just before getting in their car to drive home?

This is bad why?

4 posted on 01/04/2009 8:04:57 AM PST by hoosierham (Waddaya mean Freedom isn't free ?;will yo)
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To: Kid Shelleen

It looks like it’s a Republican who wants to put these mom and pop places out of business.


5 posted on 01/04/2009 8:05:10 AM PST by basil (Outlaw gun free zones!)
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To: ml/nj

True. It should have read “drinks,” or “beverages,” not “alcohol.”


6 posted on 01/04/2009 8:08:43 AM PST by Gondring (Paul Revere would have been flamed as a naysayer troll and told to go back to Boston.)
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To: hoosierham
So lots of people will no longer get boozed up just before getting in their car to drive home? This is bad why?

Because, unlike your brainwashed mind, I trust my fellow citizens to be responsible.....just as I trust my fellow citizens with firearms.

Don't feed me the MADD garbage and don't try to ply me with stories of woe.

I am sick and tired of people like you who think it is OK to tell people what they can and cannot do because you don't have any faith in them.

7 posted on 01/04/2009 8:14:27 AM PST by Erik Latranyi (Too many conservatives urge retreat when the war of politics doesn't go their way.)
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To: Kid Shelleen

Every State that put this item on the ballot for a public vote, worded the content so extreme that you had NO IDEA what it meant. In Florida, it was like reading the legal jargon of a microsoft software item times ten. Now all were warned of the economic downfalls, but the greeners were happy to pass it anyway. Illinois has lost 20% of it’s mom and pop diners, truck stops, restaurants, bars,etc and Florida has probably lost that many if not more.


8 posted on 01/04/2009 8:14:27 AM PST by Wavrnr10 (Eagles soar....but weasles don't get sucked into jet engines!)
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To: basil

Wait, this Republican is not happy with 95%, he wants 100%:

http://www.senatorgreenleaf.com/press-2008/121708.htm


9 posted on 01/04/2009 8:14:51 AM PST by GOP_Lady
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To: Wavrnr10

That’s the plan, e.g. it’s not a bug, it’s a feature.


10 posted on 01/04/2009 8:16:52 AM PST by Freedom4US
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To: Wavrnr10

We don’t lose all that many down here since many are eating outside anyway.


11 posted on 01/04/2009 8:21:01 AM PST by rodguy911 (HOME OF THE FREE BECAUSE OF THE BRAVE--GO SARAHCUDA !!)
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To: hoosierham
This is bad why?

You see, some of us here on FreeRepublic believe in FReedom. I know this is a foreign concept to some, and a difficult concept for others. FReedom doesn't mean that you are free to murder; or to drive a car in an impaired state. It also doesn't mean that you can make up some completely artificial method based upon a weak statistical correlation to decide who is and who is not impaired. If I go to a bar and have one or two beers in two hours, my reaction time is still going to be better than nearly all the geezers (and some other classes of drivers too) out there when I leave. And FReedom also means that the person who owns the restaurant or bar or business gets to decide what goes on there. Smoking has been going on here since the founding of the Republic, and it is only now that the enemies of FReedom seem to have the upper hand, that people want to make of smokers here what Hitler made of the Jews in Germany.

I say this as someone who lost some of my family in Europe and does not smoke cigarettes. I do enjoy cigars, but then so did Winston Churchill.

ML/NJ

12 posted on 01/04/2009 8:24:04 AM PST by ml/nj
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So lots of people will no longer get boozed up just before getting in their car to drive home? This is bad why?

Because it's against the law. Driving drunk kills innocent people. Idiot.

13 posted on 01/04/2009 8:24:17 AM PST by ExtremeUnction
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>"Because it's against the law."

So was being Jewish in latter 1930's Germany.

14 posted on 01/04/2009 8:31:31 AM PST by rawcatslyentist (Proud non productive worker under directive 10-289)
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To: ml/nj
people want to make of smokers here what Hitler made of the Jews in Germany.

As a matter of historical record, Hiter was the original "cigarette Nazi." His hatred of smoking was just one of his many endearing qualities.

15 posted on 01/04/2009 8:37:16 AM PST by ihatemyalarmclock (')
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To: ml/nj
--Smoking has been going on here since the founding of the Republic, and it is only now that the enemies of FReedom seem to have the upper hand, that people want to make of smokers here what Hitler made of the Jews in Germany--
16 posted on 01/04/2009 8:51:44 AM PST by seatrout (I wouldn't know most "American Idol" winners if I tripped over them!)
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To: ExtremeUnction

You happen to be familiar with the concept of satire?


17 posted on 01/04/2009 9:20:48 AM PST by hoosierham (Waddaya mean Freedom isn't free ?;will yo)
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To: Wavrnr10

We played two music gigs at a local venue...one gig before a ban passed (100+ people in attendance) and a second gig after the ban passed (only 30-40).


18 posted on 01/04/2009 9:21:23 AM PST by relictele
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To: Erik Latranyi

Woooo! Give ‘em hell!


19 posted on 01/04/2009 9:23:50 AM PST by relictele
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To: ml/nj
yeah,yeah.

Nearly all impaired drivers insist they aren't;and most of the time they make it to wherever without killing someone.

This isn't colonial 1700s when you could get staggering drunk and expect your horse would know the way home.

If you live down the block,have a designated driver,take a taxi or bus,fine,drink away!

I,for one, would just as soon no drunks were roaring down the road in two tons of metal and plastic at 60 miles per hour.And I don't want checckpoints and roadblocks,either.

20 posted on 01/04/2009 9:32:10 AM PST by hoosierham (Waddaya mean Freedom isn't free ?;will you take a credit card?)
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