Creationism Makes Its Mark

religion dispatches ^ | January 6, 2008 | Lauri Lebo

[editor-surveyor]

You always look at things contentiously, rather than analytically.

If you were even slightly accustomed to analytical thought, most of your posts would not have been made.

[DevNet]

^irony.

[labette]

Put down your crack pipe and step away from the keyboard...

So what gives here? Is it a slow winter at Darwin Central?

[tpanther]

That’s an easy one....fall of man and all.

[editor-surveyor]

The life and times of a retread...

[Alamo-Girl]

Thank you oh so very much for your beautiful essay-post, dearest sister in Christ!

And thank you so much for your encouragements, GodGunsGuts!

Truth is Truth, and implicates Beauty and the Good, with all its moral implications. It seems to me that the truly excellent scientists — at least some of them, such as Roger Penrose — know this, and take it as the guide to their own work — which is essentially a work of discovery of that which exists from the foundation of the world, not some kind of humanly conceived "new creation."

Very well said indeed. I agree that the best scientists approach their work as discovery rather than say, invention.

The most beautiful and deepest experience a man can have is the sense of the mysterious. It is the underlying principle of religion as well as all serious endeavour in art and science. He who never had this experience seems to me, if not dead, then at least blind. To sense that behind anything that can be experienced there is a something that our mind cannot grasp and whose beauty and sublimity reaches us only indirectly and as a feeble reflection, this is religiousness. In this sense I am religious. To me it suffices to wonder at these secrets and to attempt humbly to grasp with my mind a mere image of the lofty structure of all that there is.

Einstein's speech 'My Credo' to the German League of Human Rights, Berlin, autumn 1932, Einstein: A Life in Science, Michael White and John Gribbin, page 262

To God be the glory!

[tpanther]

Truly to me this speaks to the glory of God, while you have to pretend it is all a trick.

If this "truly speaks to the glory of God" then why you demand such silliness of everyone that "God doesn't belong in science class" then?

[hosepipe]

[ Creationism is of no use as a scientific theory, and that is why scientists have never had any use for it. Creationism is not a scientific endeavor, it is simply apologetics. ]

To think that the third human on this planet came from "other than" the first two is faulty logic, requiring bazaar tales and yarns of imagination.. You know, like evolving from Monkeys or some other mammal.. Grunting cave men operating on the level of a inner city rapper is creative fantasy but totally unproven, they were probably much smarter... Humans can ape monkeys and monkeys can ape humans but monkeys cannot be humans..

[MyTwoCopperCoins]

"That’s an easy one....fall of man and all."

You should try telling that to the poor child's parents... or maybe not.

If a pregnant woman happened to be exposed to radiation, and had her child come out that way, I'm sure you'd claim that the fault of the fall of man, too.

Besides, it's amazing for all the sinning so far, all of us aren't turning up like that. Only a minor percentage seems to be paying for the fall of man, ay?

[MyTwoCopperCoins]

Put down your crack pipe and step away from the keyboard...

Yes, when reality slaps someone awake from that honey-dipped, sugar-and-spice view of life, it feels rude to be awakened.

[MyTwoCopperCoins]

To think that the third human on this planet came from "other than" the first two is faulty logic, requiring bazaar tales and yarns of imagination...

To think a population close to 7 billion people was raised from a seeding population of just two, you need to be on something, to be able to take into account the genetic degradation from that massive inbreeding. Try it on a smaller scale with dogs. You will see how quickly inbreeding brings about grotesque genetic conditions.

Next, we can discuss Adam's 900-year "existence".

You know, like evolving from Monkeys or some other mammal... Humans can ape monkeys and monkeys can ape humans but monkeys cannot be humans...

Humans and apes evolved from a common ancestor.

[tpanther]

If a pregnant woman happened to be exposed to radiation, and had her child come out that way, I'm sure you'd claim that the fault of the fall of man, too.

Uhhh, pretty much, it was supposed to be paradise without sin, without pain and so on, the way I understand biblical scripture.

[MyTwoCopperCoins]

It’s a pity only that tiny percentage of unlucky newborns are paying for the sins of the healthy majority... very just of your God indeed!

[tpanther]

It’s a fallen world.

[tpanther]

To think a population close to 7 billion people was raised from a seeding population of just two, you need to be on something...

But not when all we know came from a common ancestor...we just came from goo, which turned into a salamander, then a rabbit, then a monkey and change-o presto...here you are?

alrighty-then!

[MyTwoCopperCoins]

Hello! Asexual reproduction. Look it up.

[labette]

"....These things I have spoken unto you, that in me ye might have peace. In the world ye shall have tribulation; but be of good cheer; I have overcome the world." - Jesus

[allmendream]

Because God is not applicable directly to science. It informs the opinions and philosophies of scientists such as myself who are Christian most certainly, but nobody wants to hear what a scientists “feels” about the data in his science publications.

How would a science that incorporated God sound like?

“God’s humble servants made the discovery that in HIS infinite wisdom, and as long as HE wills it to be so, Protein X activates transcription of Gene Y in response to hormone Z, glory be to our Lord Jesus Christ.”

What a waste of words. And their only actual impact would be to drive away any non Christians from your scientific finding.

There is a reason why science is universal, and religion is different all over the globe.

[hosepipe]

[ To think a population close to 7 billion people was raised from a seeding population of just two, you need to be on something, ]

Take a penny, double it each day for a month... see what you end up with.. Factor in twins and triplets and reassess.. You must have neglected your cyphers when young, Jethro....