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California Bleedin' (Number 1 in net population loss)
Townhall ^ | Jan 22, 2009 | Bill Steigerwald

Posted on 01/22/2009 8:20:29 PM PST by SeekAndFind

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To: gidget7

They did not specify a rate of net resident outflow just the gross numbers. MA may very well have the highest RATE of net resident outflow..


21 posted on 01/22/2009 8:51:17 PM PST by arrogantsob
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To: ikka

And your religion. Just ask Obama.


22 posted on 01/22/2009 8:51:17 PM PST by sadiebella
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To: SoldierDad

The firm I am associated with just shut down our manufacturing operation in the LA area. Even though the labor cost was really high, it was the regulatory burdens by the state and local govt. that shut the doors at that plant as opposed to our other facilities located in other states. California is a difficult state to do business in,and, they are competing with states that have lower costs on nearly every front.


23 posted on 01/22/2009 8:52:10 PM PST by Jubal Madison (Sic Semper Tyrannis)
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To: SeekAndFind
California is far different today. It's obviously a victim of global economic forces beyond its control, not to mention Washington-made fiscal and monetary malfeasance.

Absolute BS. The California economic mess is mainly a problem of incompetent leadership. California has a massive spending problem. Revenue is way up, but no amount of revenue can keep up with the horrific increases in spending voted in by the idiotic liberal legislature and a moronic electorate that never saw a bond-issue they didn't like.

Even problems like Prop 187 are state problems. Prop 187 was passed prohibiting state spending on illegal immigrants, from welfare to school spending to instate tuition for college. A liberal California court struck down the law as unconstitutional. Republican Governor Pete Wilson appealed the law, but when Liberal Gray Davis was elected Governor, he withdrew the appeal.

California is stewing in a mess primarily of its own making. No doubt Presidents from Clinton to Baby Bush sought to flood California with illegal immigrants, but that was only a minor problem, especially in light of attempts to deny them services.

California is the reason it is facing bankruptcy and the dramatic problems in California are the reason that anybody with brains and means is getting the hell out. I'm bound here by my golden handcuffs, but as soon as I retire, I am out of here for the green hills of Virginia myself.

I think the count-down at this point is, 10 days until California is insolvent...

24 posted on 01/22/2009 8:58:31 PM PST by Freedom_Is_Not_Free
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To: Jubal Madison

Between the state restrictions, health care costs, the very costly worker’s Comp program, and increased demands from unions for wage and benefit increases, business have been driven out of CA to either other states or to overseas locations. All I see so far from the Obamasiah Adminstration is more of the same - redistribution of wealth from those who make it to those who don’t - 1.5 trillion dollars of tax payer money is being requested in order to fund government programs, which will only serve to further weaken the economy. I don’t understand why it is so hard to understand that to improve the economy you need to increase the number of jobs through private industry, not government programs.


25 posted on 01/22/2009 9:01:30 PM PST by SoldierDad (Proud Dad of a U.S. Army Infantry Soldier presently instructing at Ft. Benning.)
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To: Tempest

It is much more than the cost of living. If that was the only problem with California, and not the idiotic laws, and the environmental regulations, and sensitivity training and multiculturalism, and teaching homosexuality in schools, banning guns and oppressing gun owners, the continued attempts to get everyone out of cars and into transit, the continual parade of socialist oppression, then I wouldn’t be so anxious to leave. I can manage the higher cost as most of us can find a way to do. It is the stupidity of socialism and its oppressive laws and regulations and red tape and nonsense that have me wanting to leave the California Asylum for the Criminally Insane.


26 posted on 01/22/2009 9:02:01 PM PST by Freedom_Is_Not_Free
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To: DeepThought42

That’s just it. Those who chose to stay — and work and pay taxes — will be shouldering an ever-increasing burden and more and more freeloaders remain behind and more and more wealthy and taxpayers leave the stay. You say it makes it nicer for those left behind. I beg to differ. It will just make it that much harder on those left behind, as fewer and few taxpayers with good jobs have to support the California entitlement system.


27 posted on 01/22/2009 9:04:40 PM PST by Freedom_Is_Not_Free
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To: SoCalPol

Precisely.


28 posted on 01/22/2009 9:05:41 PM PST by Savage Beast (The Left is decadence. Hubris and denial lead to tragedy.)
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To: SoCalPol
San Diego is adding on population.

You guys need to declare your independence. California should be broken up into 4 states. Southern California, Inland California, Northern California, and SF and LA could become Gaysia.

29 posted on 01/22/2009 9:05:41 PM PST by McGavin999
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To: SeekAndFind
The ills of California are those of the whole country. Socialism, socialism and socialism.
30 posted on 01/22/2009 9:22:16 PM PST by Razz Barry (Round'em up, send'em home.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Liberalism is ruining the state. To many stupid people keep electing these fools to office.


31 posted on 01/22/2009 9:24:07 PM PST by Parley Baer
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To: SeekAndFind
So why, for the fourth straight year, has the number of people moving from California to states like Florida and Arizona exceeded the number moving into California from other states?...excuse me - how about New Jersey - recent figures show that, for example, in 2006 72,000 more citizens moved out of the state than moved in - the state did grow by .2% that year, but that was only because of an influx of immigrants and even they were wising up - 6% fewer immigrants entered the state that year than had on average over the past five years - I'm so tired of Kaliforrnnnnia always bragging about how it's first in everything......
32 posted on 01/22/2009 9:26:40 PM PST by Intolerant in NJ
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To: nutmeg

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33 posted on 01/22/2009 9:27:40 PM PST by nutmeg (No terrorist attacks on U.S. soil since 9/11/01. Thank you President Bush.)
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To: SeekAndFind
It's obviously a victim of global economic forces beyond its control, not to mention Washington-made fiscal and monetary malfeasance.

Good Luck with all that victim crap BILL!

34 posted on 01/22/2009 9:28:13 PM PST by eyedigress
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To: SeekAndFind
It's still our biggest, wealthiest state with 38 million people -- one in eight Americans.

Probably more like one in twelve Americans and one in twelve Mexicans. ;)

35 posted on 01/22/2009 9:31:55 PM PST by Mr. Jeeves ("One man's 'magic' is another man's engineering. 'Supernatural' is a null word." -- Robert Heinlein)
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To: SeekAndFind

36 posted on 01/22/2009 9:36:12 PM PST by Cacique (quos Deus vult perdere, prius dementat ( Islamia Delenda Est ))
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To: SeekAndFind

Gang ridden neighborhoods? Desolate, remote, crap holes.


37 posted on 01/22/2009 9:52:53 PM PST by Tempest (Obama is not my president.)
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To: Freedom_Is_Not_Free

Sorry, most people I know all say it’s the cost of living.


38 posted on 01/22/2009 9:56:17 PM PST by Tempest (Obama is not my president.)
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To: SoldierDad

Yes, and I am afraid under BO and dem. control of congress it’s going to get a lot tougher to do business in the USA. Don’t these fools know we are bleeding manufacturing jobs? At some point, it gets so tough to be in compliance with regs. and the govt. takes so much of your profit, you realize it just isn’t worth it anymore. I fear it will not be many years till we reach that point at the current rate. You and I understand redistribution of wealth doesn’t work. Why don’t our leaders get it? Don’t know how you feel about the man, but we need another Ronald Reagan to lead this country out of the wilderness.


39 posted on 01/22/2009 9:56:23 PM PST by Jubal Madison (Sic Semper Tyrannis)
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Why don’t our leaders get it?

They have a lifetime pension and lifetime healthcare and lifetime raises. They have.

40 posted on 01/22/2009 9:59:55 PM PST by eyedigress
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