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Mexican collapse?
Washington Times ^ | Jan. 22, 2009 | Traci Carl

Posted on 01/24/2009 9:07:58 AM PST by AuntB

Indiscriminate kidnappings. Nearly daily beheadings. Gangs that mock and kill government agents.

This isn't Iraq or Pakistan. It's Mexico, which the U.S. government and a growing number of experts say is becoming one of the world's biggest security risks.

The prospect that America's southern neighbor could melt into lawlessness provides an unexpected challenge to President Obama's government. In its latest report anticipating possible global security risks, the U.S. Joint Forces Command lumps Mexico and Pakistan together as being at risk of a "rapid and sudden collapse."

"The Mexican possibility may seem less likely, but the government, its politicians, police and judicial infrastructure are all under sustained assault and pressure by criminal gangs and drug cartels," the command said in the report, published Nov. 25.

Retiring CIA chief Michael V. Hayden told reporters Friday that Mexico could rank alongside Iran as a challenge for Mr. Obama - perhaps a greater problem than Iraq.

The Justice Department said last month that Mexican gangs are the "biggest organized crime threat to the United States." Outgoing National Security Adviser Stephen J. Hadley said last week that the worsening violence threatens Mexico's democratic form of government.

The alarm is spreading to the private sector as well. Mexico - Latin America's second-biggest economy and the United States' third-biggest oil supplier - is one of the top 10 global risks for 2009 identified by the Eurasia Group, a New York-based consulting firm.

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtontimes.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Mexico
KEYWORDS: 2009; aliens; bho2009; immigrantlist; immigration; mexico; nau; northamericanunion; spp; warnextdoor
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To: AuntB; txflake; basil

I think hussein and the dims want to make Mexico another state.


21 posted on 01/24/2009 10:45:53 AM PST by Arrowhead1952 (Dissent is patriotic - Hussein is not and will never be my president.)
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To: Arrowhead1952

“I think hussein and the dims want to make Mexico another state.”

I think hussein, the dims and TOO many republicans want to make the USA another Mexico.


22 posted on 01/24/2009 10:50:29 AM PST by AuntB (The right to vote in America: Blacks 1870; Women 1920; Native Americans 1925; Foreigners 2008)
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To: Arrowhead1952; AuntB

Here’s a good clue.

Trilateralist/CFR Z. Brzezinski discovers Obama at Columbia U.

Obama admin. is advised by Trilat/CFR Z. Brzezinski and Trilat/CFR P. Volker.

Trilat/CFR Robert Pastor (supporter of North American Union) is undoubtedly in the shadows.


23 posted on 01/24/2009 11:09:15 AM PST by wolfcreek (There is no 2 party system only arrogant Pols and their handlers)
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To: AuntB

laying out the case for a takeover. there is scarcely one place left of Spanish colonial heritage that hasn’t been taken over by the US. Mexico will be no different.


24 posted on 01/24/2009 11:17:45 AM PST by kinghorse
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To: jimmyray
A while back I heard the estimate that of the top three sources of income for Mexico (Tourism, oil, remittances), the second highest was remittances from Mexicans living in the United States. If they're not sending "every last penny" back, it's still a heck of a lot.
25 posted on 01/24/2009 11:55:16 AM PST by PLMerite ("Unarmed, one can only flee from Evil. But Evil isn't overcome by fleeing from it." Jeff Cooper)
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To: AuntB

I’ve read several different stories on this situation in the last month or so.

Has the situation all-of-a-sudden gotten noticeably worse, or is it just the new “story du jour” that all the urinalists have to write one story about?


26 posted on 01/24/2009 12:47:16 PM PST by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: combat_boots
“Given the opportunity to flee the madness of Mexico, is there really a limit as to how many Mexicans would want to come to the United States?”

You have struck upon the gem of a brilliant idea. We let all the Mexicans come north, which suits the liberals to a "T", as it gives them an endless supply of victims and welfare cases to vote them into absolute power forever.

We conservatives move south and take over Mexico, establishing our Grand Republic again. We build a GIANT heavily armored border wall to keep the libs out, tweak the good old American Constitution to absolutely preclude socialism in any form, reinforce the Second Amendment to preclude anyone from ever even considering taking our guns, and presto!!!

We live in peace, freedom and happiness again. And the climate is better, if you can stand the heat. Then we'll see once and for all, in a "laboratory setting", which system is the most effective - capitalist or Socialist.

27 posted on 01/24/2009 1:11:53 PM PST by Hardastarboard (The Fairness Doctrine isn't about "Fairness" - it's about Doctrine.)
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To: JimRed
Cue the “legalize drugs, take the profit out, end the WOD” crowd in 5...4...3...2...

And what is your suggestion? Actually there are only two solutions the first being quick and certain death for those that smuggle drugs. It worked in Singapore but given our legal structure in the United States it would not be swift or certain. Thus it WILL NOT WORK HERE.

The second solution is legalization. The drugs of abuse are actually very cheap to grow and or make. I really do not care if a druggie kills himself with an overdose. In fact I would be somewhat pleased. At least he will not be trying to rob me or my wife for money and putting my wife's life in danger.

If they want help to get off drugs, give it to them. Few will make that choice. If they do not have the money to buy the drugs, give it to them with a clean needle and high purity. They will eventually and quickly remove themselves from the gene pool.

28 posted on 01/24/2009 1:33:46 PM PST by cpdiii (roughneck, oilfield trash and proud of it, geologist, pilot, pharmacist, iconoclast.)
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To: AuntB
"provides an unexpected challenge to President Obama's government."

Why should this be a surprise exactly?

29 posted on 01/24/2009 1:49:04 PM PST by Paladin2 (No, pundits strongly believe that the proper solution is more dilution.)
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To: Arrowhead1952; AuntB
I think hussein and the dims want to make Mexico another state.

nah...



we make you part of Mexico, gringo, not the other way round...

Learn spanish - bow to your new masters - pay your taxes...

30 posted on 01/24/2009 1:50:54 PM PST by bill1952 (McCain and the GOP were worthless)
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To: cpdiii; JimRed
The second solution is legalization.

LOL! It didn't take him long, did it?
Predictable.

31 posted on 01/24/2009 1:59:40 PM PST by bill1952 (McCain and the GOP were worthless)
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To: xcamel

Which 5 or 6 Mexican states are in trouble, so I can see where they are (N or S Mexico)?


32 posted on 01/24/2009 2:07:56 PM PST by Paladin2 (No, pundits strongly believe that the proper solution is more dilution.)
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To: Paladin2
All of the northern border states, Distrito Federal (Mexico City), and Quintana Roo

see:http://www.fotw.net/flags/mx(.html

33 posted on 01/24/2009 2:19:38 PM PST by xcamel (The urge to save humanity is always a false front for the urge to rule it. - H. L. Mencken)
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To: AuntB

Nicely jaded reply from someone who has spent NO time living in Mexico that I know of, and makes it her lifes work to point out every possible disaster-in-waiting related to it. Move to Montana if you hate Mexico so much.


34 posted on 01/24/2009 2:24:02 PM PST by xcamel (The urge to save humanity is always a false front for the urge to rule it. - H. L. Mencken)
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To: JimRed
Cue the “legalize drugs, take the profit out, end the WOD” crowd in 5...4...3...2...

It's tough to argue that the Mexican drug cartels could survive the legalization of drugs in the US.

35 posted on 01/24/2009 2:29:49 PM PST by Citizen Blade ("A Conservative Government is an organized hypocrisy" -Benjamin Disraeli)
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To: AuntB

Our Army may have to go “Truckin’ on down to Taco-Town!”


36 posted on 01/24/2009 2:57:47 PM PST by 2harddrive (...House a TOTAL Loss.....)
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To: xcamel

Those would seem to be the Mexican States with the strongest interaction with the US. Must be W’s fault.


37 posted on 01/24/2009 2:57:47 PM PST by Paladin2 (No, pundits strongly believe that the proper solution is more dilution.)
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To: Hardastarboard
"We conservatives move south and take over Mexico, establishing our Grand Republic again"

FREE Staters plus Gualt Gulchers.

38 posted on 01/24/2009 3:01:51 PM PST by Paladin2 (No, pundits strongly believe that the proper solution is more dilution.)
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To: Cindy

Ping.


39 posted on 01/24/2009 3:06:21 PM PST by fanfan
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To: JimRed
Cue the “legalize drugs, take the profit out, end the WOD” crowd in 5...4...3...2...

Right! We can't have that!

After all, look at what happened when alcohol was decriminalized.....organized crime was crippled, the government raised more funds, and free Americans had the choice to drink, or not.

How terrible!

;-)

40 posted on 01/24/2009 3:12:01 PM PST by fanfan
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