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To: jamese777
Obama has presented that

To whom, exactly? When, exactly? Under what rule(s) or law(s), exactly? Does it or does it not constitute "best evidence"? Who is Obama's Jr listed father, and what is his citizenry to document that Obama Jr is indeed a natural born citizen under then current law? Has Obama filed an affidavit with a court under penalty of perjury in either state or federal jurisdiction that he never relinquished the US citizenship you presume? If so, where? And if so, how did he attend Indonesian public school (documented historical fact) and how did he travel to Pakistan in 1980-1981 (documented historical fact) when Pakistan was on the list of countries that US citizens were banned from visiting?

The only legitimate legal question is whether or not the documentation that he has presented is forged or fraudulent.

See above for points that call into question his current citizenship status.

Google “Hawaii Revised Statutes Section 338” and pay particular attention to Sections 338-18 and 338-19.

Ahem, your point being... what, exactly? (And... why drag Google as a third party into a any legal argument??)

If it is that the US voting public has no tangible or direct interest in viewing Obama/Sotero's birth certificate, I respectfully disagree.

Why wait (for example) until a crisis with order of magnitude equivalent to the Cuban missile crisis to find out whether the military chain of command agrees with you? Or (for that matter) some low level (read: unelected) Hawaiian government PR flack?

Is that a risk the consequences of which you (jamese777) would be willing to underwrite??

At last glance, barackobama.com has up to date links to:

facebook

myspace

youtube

flickr

digg

twitter

eventful

linkedln

blackplanet

faithbase

eons

glee

migente

mybatanga

asianave

DNC partybuilder

Now... with all that wonderful effort, under what logic does Obama/Sotero withhold his birth certificate?? Contrast the remarkable amount of information provided with the absence of candor regarding a fundamental qualification that Obama needs in order to be qualified to serve the public as president under the US Constitution. Who is blowing smoke??

159 posted on 01/26/2009 8:38:09 PM PST by SteveH (First they ignore you. Then they laugh at you. Then they fight you. Then you win.)
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To: SteveH

You’re right, there’s no need to go through any search engine to get to the Hawaii statutes on the confidentiality and legal process for the release of vital records. I’m sure that you can get there on your own. Once again, the cite that you asked for is HRS 338-18, 19.

Who a person’s father is; what hospital they were born in; and what schools they attended are completely and totally irrelevant to whether or not they were born in the United States of America.

Whose job do you think it is to determine whose credentials are acceptable as a natural born citizen in order to become President of the United States?

If anybody wants to view Obama’s original birth certificate, get a subpoena for that document from a judge.

The burden of proof is no longer on Obama beyond qualifying to be on the ballot in 50 states and the District of Columbia.

There was an additional opportunity for any two (one Representative and one Senator were required) of 535 members of Congress to object to Vice President Cheney’s Certification of the Electoral College vote during the joint session of Congress held on January 8th to count the Electoral College votes. No Senator and no Representative objected to the official certification of the Election.
There is no legislative or judicial authority in the United States that has the power to overturn the electoral will of 69,456,897 voters and 365 Electors.
At this point in time and for the next four years, impeachment is the constitutional vehicle to remove Obama from office.


160 posted on 01/26/2009 9:23:13 PM PST by jamese777
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