Posted on 01/26/2009 11:06:45 PM PST by neverdem
They're looking over their shoulders. They know that they didn't really win because their victory came from the oak-tree-seed crowd's cheating, and they're scared to death that enough people will discover their theft and throw them out. As evil as they are, their consciences are bothering them, so they're acting out. Babies.
The nod to Gov Palin is the icing on the cake. We are definitely in for an interesting four years.
When I was a kid, a brody was a sort of controlled bike crash.
Obama may benefit from the seeming fact that many of the MSM outlets are in or nearing bankrupcy. The Media is like a poker player that is "all-in". I necessarily think that this gives Obama a free pass in the Media, but it buys him a bit more time before the roof falls in on him in terms of coverage.
Jews were always included under the rubric of the “Judeo-Christian tradition”. It was kind of a delicate arrangement. The convention was always that ceremonial expressions of religious sentiment restricted themselves to mentions of “God” or “The Lord”. We had Bible readings in school, but only from the Old Testament, which was supposed to keep the Jews happy, but as kids we didn’t worry about them too much. The big schism was between Protestants and Catholics. All this was accepted in the 1950’s as “the way things were”.
Well, I wasn't born till the 60's so I got in after the cutoff. :P
With all due respect, that doesn't make sense--I must recognize that a creator I don't think exist gives inalienable rights?
It is ignorant of atheists to pretend this isn't a Christian nation, but it's equally ignorant of believers to think atheists aren't "real" Americans.
I'm just pointing out what the DOI states. The Idea Of America rest solely on the concept that man does not derive his rights from other men, but from a creator. My question to you is as an American Atheist, how and where do you derive your rights, since you do not recognize a creator?
This is the whole "experiment" America was formed around. It's ONE solid concept: Man does not, nor can he give the right of LIFE, LIBERTY, and THE PURSUIT OF HAPPINESS.
I've explained that so many times on FR I don't have the energy to go through that again, but simply put, my rights are mine due to society's agreement to respect each other's rights. There is no being that GIVES us these rights, humans in the course of creating societies worked through the ideas of liberty, freedom and human dignity. These rights that are "given" me could be wiped away instantly if the wrong people came to power in the society in which I live.
Man indeed formulated those rights. IMHO, of course.
But that's a problem for you, why? because it doesn't matter what you believe, the DOI says much differently. As Americans our formulation as free individuals directly indicates "Man" can not "formulate" nor be able to give "those" rights, only a creator. That was the idea which constitutes the whole notion of individual freedom. Without this, there is no America.
Now with that said, you as Atheist are not trying to avert the concept so you are not an enemy of the idea, however there's no way you can live by it. Atheist could not have formed America as it was conceptualized, because if you believe "MAN" gives or formulates rights, then you actually believe in the antithesis of the idea.
Others have tried man giving rights, it never works, and it's called, Totalitarianism.
I can't prevent you from thinking such a ridiculous idea. If it makes you feel good, please, go right ahead--it doesn't affect me one way or the other. Have a good one.
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