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Key sponsors Speedo, Omega back Michael Phelps after apology for marijuana pipe photo
Hartford Courant ^ | Feb. 2, 2009

Posted on 02/03/2009 4:19:16 PM PST by Wolfie

Key sponsors Speedo, Omega back Michael Phelps after apology for marijuana pipe photo

Two of Michael Phelps' leading sponsors expressed support for the Olympic great Monday, a day after he apologized for being photographed in a British newspaper inhaling from a marijuana pipe. Luxury Swiss watchmaker Omega termed Phelps' actions a private matter and "nonissue." Swim wear manufacturer Speedo called the 23-year-old American a "valued member of the Speedo team."

Phelps acknowledged "regrettable" behavior and "bad judgment" after the photo appeared Sunday in the tabloid News of the World.

Speedo gave Phelps a $1 million bonus for his record eight gold medals at the Beijing Olympics. Phelps joined Speedo in 2001, a year after making his Olympic debut in Sydney. He dominated the Beijing Games in the company's high-tech LZR Racer suit.

"In light of Michael Phelps' statement yesterday, Speedo would like to make it clear that it does not condone such behavior and we know that Michael truly regrets his actions," Speedo, which is based in Nottingham, said in a statement to The Associated Press.

Related links PHELPS Photo "Michael Phelps is a valued member of the Speedo team and a great champion. We will do all that we can to support him and his family."

Omega said it was "strongly committed" to its relationship with Phelps, calling his Beijing accomplishments "among the defining sporting achievements in the history of sport."

"The current story in the press involves Michael Phelps' private life and is, as far as Omega is concerned, a nonissue," the company said.

The News of the World said the picture was taken during a November house party while Phelps was visiting the University of South Carolina. Under World Anti-Doping Agency rules, an athlete is subject to sanctions only for a positive test during competition periods.

"Michael Phelps is a great Olympic champion," the International Olympic Committee said in a statement to the AP. "He apologized for his inappropriate behavior. We have no reason to doubt his sincerity and his commitment to continue to act as a role model."


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KEYWORDS: phelps; potheads; wod
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To: Yossarian
I swam Alcatraz,

Wow! That is quite an accomplishment! Those currents around the SFB are insane, and the cold...my hat is off to you.

51 posted on 02/04/2009 8:11:36 AM PST by Darwin Fish (God invented evolution. Man invented religion.)
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To: Darwin Fish

Hey dude. Some of us are not dope smokers, alcoholics, cig smokers or losers. Dope smoking is not healthy.


52 posted on 02/04/2009 8:12:04 AM PST by Frantzie (Boycott GE - they own NBC, MSNBC, CNBC & Universal. Boycott Disney - they own ABC)
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To: Kimmers

I would rather see other swimmers get a chance to make some endorsement money. $10 million a year just to Phelps is foolish. Sad but he is a doper.


53 posted on 02/04/2009 8:13:36 AM PST by Frantzie (Boycott GE - they own NBC, MSNBC, CNBC & Universal. Boycott Disney - they own ABC)
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To: SweetLanaLiberty
“Disgusting. And I’m sure he’ll continue to get a pass for all future bad behavior. The excuse I keep hearing is that “most people” do it. No way. I haven’t. My husband hasn’t. I imagine most conervatives and Christians have it, and we are in the majority in this country.”

According to government statistics more than 100,000,000 Americans have done it. Looking at the same statistics you would find that more than half of all adults under the age of 60 in this country would admit on a government survey that they have smoked marijuana. A lot of people haven't done it. That's true. But a whole lot have, including a lot of Christians and conservatives. People don't talk about it a lot because it carries a certain social stigma, and of course it is illegal, but if you had some way of knowing who has done it I think you would be surprised at how many people you know who have done it and in some cases still do it occasion.

54 posted on 02/04/2009 8:22:33 AM PST by SmallGovRepub
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To: Frantzie
There was a great discussion on Mike & Mike on ESPN today.

He is a doper and what he did is still illegal and he does have a responsibility to those who sponsor him....I am shocked that his sponsors have not dropped him, I guess they have bought into the idea that everyone does it and he is only 23.....I say Barbra Streisand to that and he should be held accountable..... What bothers me the most is our society has become so excepting of bad behavior....

55 posted on 02/04/2009 8:24:50 AM PST by Kimmers (Working hard so Obamas friends don't have to)
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To: Hot Tabasco
...I was too and the first and only time I smoked dope (before I entered the Army) was when I took a trip to Lansing with a couple of my high school swim team mates to play water polo at Michigan State.........That turned out to be a real joke....LOL!

Yup, been there, done that. Swimmers, sky divers, and believe it or not, top motorcycle racers all smoke pot regularly. As one champion racer explained to me, he can hear each engine part screaming as he races--it "talks to him." Funny thing is, if it were legalized, a huge part of the border war violence would go away, and inner city kids would have to find real jobs. Boy that would suck, huh.

56 posted on 02/04/2009 8:33:59 AM PST by Darwin Fish (God invented evolution. Man invented religion.)
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To: varyouga
Looks like me and you are in the same boat, FRiend. I'm a mechanical and nuclear engineer about to celebrate 10 years of regular smoking. 'Celebrate' because I love to rub the lazy doper stereotype in doubters' faces after I blow them away with my work.

Glad to meetcha! Actually I don't do it anymore, but for real I know some of the best scientists, engineers, and CEO's who partake regularly. Most of them quite well off.

57 posted on 02/04/2009 8:38:03 AM PST by Darwin Fish (God invented evolution. Man invented religion.)
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To: Linda Liberty

I love that quote I saw it earlier today.


58 posted on 02/04/2009 8:38:49 AM PST by Mr. Blonde (You ever thought about being weird for a living?)
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To: Darwin Fish

“Swimmers, sky divers, and believe it or not, top motorcycle racers all smoke pot regularly.”

All of them do? Come on. That’s b.s. I’m sure some do. I wouldn’t doubt that the percentage of these people who do it is higher than the national average because their mostly young, more likely to be male than female, and at least sky divers and motorcycle racers are people who would tend to be more likely to live on the wild side somewhat. The same would go for snow boarders. But not all of them smoke pot. That’s just a ridiculous thing to say.


59 posted on 02/04/2009 8:39:45 AM PST by SmallGovRepub
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To: SmallGovRepub; Darwin Fish

“their” = “they’re”


60 posted on 02/04/2009 8:40:52 AM PST by SmallGovRepub
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To: LoveUSA
Don’t you see that your point is EXACTLY what this discussion is about. Delude yourself into thinking your drug use doesn’t affect anyone...delude yourself into thinking homosexuality is completely natural..delude yourself into thinking a fetus is not a baby.....

Back awaaaay from the monitor...

61 posted on 02/04/2009 8:42:28 AM PST by Darwin Fish (God invented evolution. Man invented religion.)
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To: LoveUSA

We all remove part of ourselves from reality periodically, some with drugs some without. Most “recreational activities” involve temporarily getting away from reality for a while, watching a movie, reading a book, going for a hike, doing crafts. If nothing else you gotta sleep once in a while, and while you sleep you dream. Getting away from reality is an important part of good mental health, it’s only a problem for the ones that forget how to come back.


62 posted on 02/04/2009 8:47:19 AM PST by razorboy
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To: Wolfie

Personal ethics.

Being outlawed might be the reason for the criminal activity but the narcissism of the end user is what drives demand.

After all when you face God and he shows you the victims of your use then what is your response? “Not my fault?”

If you knew that someone got shot for every jar of peanut butter you ate, are you still going to be eating peanut butter?


63 posted on 02/04/2009 9:18:52 AM PST by Swiss ("Thus always to tyrants")
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To: dalereed
You’re human garbage!

LOL, I think you meant to say "You're worse than Hitler!"

64 posted on 02/04/2009 9:37:18 AM PST by Trailerpark Badass (Happiness is a choice!)
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To: Swiss

So what if someone lives on a farm and grows their own? I don’t see a lot of victims there.


65 posted on 02/04/2009 9:58:51 AM PST by Mr. Blonde (You ever thought about being weird for a living?)
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To: Mr. Blonde
It victimizes "society", and sends the wrong "message" to the children.

/nanny state assclown mode

66 posted on 02/04/2009 10:35:17 AM PST by Ken H
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To: Mr. Blonde

I don’t have a problem but really how many of the joint smoking Freepers and general population really grow their own? Did Michael Phelps demand proof the marijuana was grown behind the house he took the bong hit?

If home grown pot was really big there wouldn’t be need to smuggle it across the borders.

Honestly on both sides is needed. The holier than thou crowd gets off by lecturing others on how to live while the other side pretend they would support medical marijuana as passionately if they didn’t want to smoke for their own enjoyment.

Responsibility for your actions is my problem with it.


67 posted on 02/04/2009 10:42:50 AM PST by Swiss ("Thus always to tyrants")
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To: Swiss

I think most people would say the violence would go down tremendously if not stop in the event that it were legalized.

I’m just saying that not all joints are the product of smuggling, but being a product of an illegal activity does invite other illegal activities. Not that legalization won’t involve illegal activities, but probably of a very different, non-violent kind.

I don’t smoke and have no desire to if it were legal, but that doesn’t mean people can’t believe it isn’t a waste of resources to prosecute people who do use.


68 posted on 02/04/2009 10:48:34 AM PST by Mr. Blonde (You ever thought about being weird for a living?)
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To: Swiss

A lot of bad things happen up stream in the supply chain of things we use every day. Whether it’s miners getting black lung to supply us with coal or steal workers losing body parts to the mill or fishing boats sinking or drug cartels having their little wars.

If God is going to hold all of the upstream “victims” of our various usages against us I don’t think any of us are making it to heaven.


69 posted on 02/04/2009 11:39:10 AM PST by razorboy
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To: Mr. Blonde

Am I for legalization, sure why not. Even harder drugs like meth caused less violence back when they was legal.

But for the individual user if you know your actions of buying and smoking a joint is causing others to suffer is it ethical to keep doing it?


70 posted on 02/04/2009 11:47:38 AM PST by Swiss ("Thus always to tyrants")
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To: razorboy

The coal miner, fisherman, steelworker, etc takes risks for employment. In much the same way the drug addict takes risks for their own reasons. Yes I can argue there is a certain amount of “guilt” if you buy gold knowing that a large amount of miners die for large amount of gold mined.

The big difference is that US Steel don’t go out and shoot a six year old because she was in the way in a drive by shooting or the coal company isn’t going to kidnap a girl as a sex slave because you buy coal.

I don’t care about those who make bad choices as those who never get a choice. It isn’t even about drugs. Congress outlawed clove cigarettes sometime last year. Hell I used to love to smoke them and I think the law is stupid. But I am not going to go out and buy black market clove cigarettes and create a demand that leads to violence.

If you grow your own, fine but if you are buying your marijuana from a dealer knowing that most likely it is causing all sorts of violence and death up the supply chain then that is the most narcissistic act I can think of.

In fact I have more respect for the hard core addict who has to have the drugs than the social users who can take it or leave it.

To me it is much the same as the drunk drivers. Getting yourself killed is one thing, getting innocent people killed in pursuit of your own pleasure is one of the worse sins.


71 posted on 02/04/2009 12:10:45 PM PST by Swiss ("Thus always to tyrants")
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To: Swiss

What about polution? Things aren’t so bad now but back in the gray triangle days of the rust belt there were plenty of “innocent bystanders” paying for US Steel’s profits.

Clove smokes aren’t illegal, at least not federally. But even if they were, it’s not the demand that leads to violence, it’s the black market. If you ain’t smoking it somebody else will.

I gave up pot a long time ago, scotch tastes better. But that doesn’t mean drug laws aren’t stupid, and that doesn’t mean holding user accountable for what suppliers in a foreign country MIGHT be doing (don’t really know if joint X came from one of the cartels doing crazy stuf in Mexico or not) and wouldn’t be doing if there weren’t these stupid laws.

Your equivalency is all wrong. A drunk driver is actively doing something risky to others. A drug user (assuming they aren’t driving) is not. You’re using way too much contageous sin logic. Somebody I don’t know doing something I can’t control that might or might not (depending on the supply chain) be related to getting me that stuff isn’t my fault, isn’t my problem, and I’m not carrying the guilt for it. You’re waving around that same kind of universal guilt that people used for all Black Friday shoppers (and American capitalists in general) after the Long Island incident, their stupidity isn’t my fault.


72 posted on 02/04/2009 12:25:06 PM PST by razorboy
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To: razorboy

Do you really think those arguments is going to work when you stand in judgment in front of God?

Things like steel or coal bring good to society in general, pollution has to be weighed against that good. Exactly what good does dope or other illegal drugs do for society? Other than some medical use it isn’t good for anything but pleasure. Thereby you can’t compare a farmer losing an arm to produce apples for your dinner table or a steel plant polluting to the drug trade.

**Somebody I don’t know doing something I can’t control that might or might not (depending on the supply chain) be related to getting me that stuff isn’t my fault, isn’t my problem, and I’m not carrying the guilt for it.**

By your logic it don’t matter what others do as long as it don’t effect me I take it.

I agree the laws are stupid, the government is responsible for that but I don’t see any responsibility on your part.


73 posted on 02/04/2009 1:52:51 PM PST by Swiss ("Thus always to tyrants")
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To: Swiss

I don’t pretend to know what God thinks. I know what I think, and I don’t believe in collective guilt.

What others do doesn’t matter if you’re not a direct participating part of it. I didn’t do it, I didn’t tell them to do it, I didn’t setup the system that encouraged them to do it, I don’t have any responsibility. I am not the conscience of the planet.


74 posted on 02/04/2009 2:06:44 PM PST by razorboy
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To: razorboy

So let me ask you this question.

Would you buy a product made by a slave?


75 posted on 02/04/2009 2:11:16 PM PST by Swiss ("Thus always to tyrants")
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To: SweetLanaLiberty
Obviously I have never smoked marijuana.

That was the intent of my question. Since you have never tried pot then you have no first hand knowledge of its effects........

Kinda like a virgin college professor explaining an orgasm...............LOL!

76 posted on 02/04/2009 2:13:26 PM PST by Hot Tabasco (Welcome to Detroit, the Renaissance city......)
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To: Swiss

Red herring question.

Here’s the problem with your hole position. Basically you’re saying that a guy that smokes pot is bad because a fellow “employee” of the guy that sold the pot to a guy who sold the pot to a guy who sold the pot to a guy who sold the pot to the guy smoking the pot killed an innocent bystander. If you’re going to play six degrees of seperation on guilt like that we’re all going to hell.


77 posted on 02/04/2009 2:14:15 PM PST by razorboy
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To: razorboy

No I am not saying the guy who smokes is bad. I am saying his actions cause bad things to happen. Take Phelps I don’t think he is bad or you was bad when you toked. I think he was ignorant of what his actions caused.

If you think it takes six degrees of separation to find an innocent victim of someone using an illegal drug then yes you are ignorant.


78 posted on 02/04/2009 2:25:39 PM PST by Swiss ("Thus always to tyrants")
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To: Swiss
Yes you are. You're saying that guy is going to have to answer to God for the actions of some guy 6 degrees separated from him, that's saying he's bad.

I know how supply chains work, so I don't merely think but KNOW that the murder example you're using is at least six degrees separated from the guy smoking a joint.

79 posted on 02/04/2009 2:28:01 PM PST by razorboy
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To: hunter112

“A guy who’s in middle age like me is not much influenced by endorsements, anyway.”

Not to mention, a speedo on a middle age guy is not a happy visual.


80 posted on 02/04/2009 2:31:45 PM PST by EDINVA
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To: razorboy

I don’t believe God punishes us for our actions on Earth. We have Saints that did horrible things before they was saved. What I believe what God does is show us what we did on Earth and how they affected others and judge us from how we react. If you discovered that a joint you bought years ago indirectly got someone killed and you was very regretful in your heart for your action then I believe God forgives.

On the other hand “Well it isn’t my fault, the government should of legalized it” I don’t think will fly.

**I know how supply chains work, so I don’t merely think but KNOW that the murder example you’re using is at least six degrees separated from the guy smoking a joint.**

I am really interested on how you “KNOW”. I don’t recall drug dealers setting up their system based on Harvard Business School tactics.


81 posted on 02/04/2009 2:46:27 PM PST by Swiss ("Thus always to tyrants")
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To: Swiss

But no joint I bought ever indirectly caused anything, not to the layers you’re looking at. I bought from some guy, who bought from some other guy, on and on until you get to some drug cartel that might or might not have been in some war with some other drug cartel. I didn’t tell them to get into a war, and I didn’t make the drugs illegal which created the black market that spawned the cartels, I spent $1 on a joint.

Supply chains work the way they work for reasons that have nothing to do with Harvard Business School. The cartels that get into wars can’t ber bothered with selling dime bags to high school kids. They sell hundreds of kilos to smugglers, who then sell to some guy that’s going to part them out into smaller units for resale, and smaller units again, and again, and probably again, and then finally some high school kid is buying a joint. Million dollar guys aren’t interested in $10 sales, and $10 sales guys don’t have the resources to participate in million dollar sales.

If you’re going to eat all the guilt for everybody on every supply chain in your life you’re going to be doing a lot of praying. Because every supply chain for everything you have ever purchased, has some immoral SOB doing nasty things to kids in it. There’s bad people in the world with legit jobs too, they don’t just work for drug cartel. Collective guilt, like all other forms of collectivism, is just silly.


82 posted on 02/04/2009 2:57:47 PM PST by razorboy
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To: Redgirl

I, on the other hand, never liked him. He always came across to me as arrogant. Even back in Athens ‘04.


83 posted on 02/04/2009 3:38:10 PM PST by NYCynic
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To: Darwin Fish
“It’s the alcoholics that you have to worry about.”

There are plenty of successful folks who rationalize their alcohol intake in the same manner.

84 posted on 02/04/2009 3:49:08 PM PST by NYCynic
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To: Darwin Fish

LOL, maybe if I kicked back with a reefer.....


85 posted on 02/04/2009 4:57:05 PM PST by LoveUSA (I have seen the future and it is Sarah Palin.)
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To: Swiss
"...how many of the joint smoking Freepers and general population really grow their own?..."

Dude, it's so easy a caveman could do it. And to do it really well requires only the caveman and a little Miracle Gro. Not that I've ever done it, mind you, but if you can master the concept of "lights on for 12 hours, lights OFF for 12 hours", you can easilyhave prize-winners come spring. Envision the equivalent of the giant pumpkin competition in Half Moon Bay, CA.

86 posted on 02/05/2009 12:06:28 PM PST by I Buried My Guns
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