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Arizona State Legislature ^

Posted on 02/04/2009 6:42:08 PM PST by Weight of Glory

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To: Weight of Glory; CodeMasterPhilzar; devane617; Diana in Wisconsin; ClearCase_guy; bamahead; ...
New Hampshire has done something similar. I hope it spreads to all 50 States. Start writing those letters people and try to get petitions on your ballots if the legislators balk.

New Hampshire legislature puts Fed Gov on Notice

61 posted on 02/04/2009 8:13:01 PM PST by Enterprise (A Representative Republic - gone now. Foolish people.)
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To: Weight of Glory

WOO HOO... The Republican Rep from my district (Vic Williams) is one of the cosponsors. As District Chair, I was with him on the floor when he was sworn in.

Thank you for posting this; I am so thrilled and proud.


62 posted on 02/04/2009 8:14:23 PM PST by DLfromthedesert
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To: c-b 1

It’s a start, and it signifies intent.


63 posted on 02/04/2009 8:16:25 PM PST by DLfromthedesert
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To: Dr.Zoidberg

It’s a GOP legislature and a LOT of conservatives.


64 posted on 02/04/2009 8:17:43 PM PST by DLfromthedesert
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To: Weight of Glory

AZ and NH...two states with their heads on straight it appears...I DO have somewhere I can move now from MN...a summer and winter home in each perhaps??


65 posted on 02/04/2009 8:17:58 PM PST by phatus maximus ( John 6:29. Learn it, love it, live it.)
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To: toomuchcoffee

The Appropriations Chair in the Senate does not want the Federal Dollars if they come with strings


66 posted on 02/04/2009 8:19:19 PM PST by DLfromthedesert
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To: Weight of Glory

This is great and appears to be a growing movement. It’s about damn time.


67 posted on 02/04/2009 8:21:58 PM PST by The Mayor ( In Gods works we see His hand; in His Word we hear His heart)
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To: DLfromthedesert
It’s a GOP legislature and a LOT of conservatives.

That is good news. This might go somewhere besides file 13.
68 posted on 02/04/2009 8:31:56 PM PST by Dr.Zoidberg
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To: Weight of Glory

Looks like Oklahoma was the first one out of the gate to do this.
I found an old blog post of mine from Posted in June 15th, 2008

http://albanysinsanity.wnymedia.net/blogs/2008/06/15/oklahoma-declares-sovereignty/


69 posted on 02/04/2009 8:32:24 PM PST by The Mayor ( In Gods works we see His hand; in His Word we hear His heart)
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To: CodeMasterPhilzar

Implementing the Tenth Amendment:
State Sovereignty Resolution
by Colorado State Senator Charles Duke

In the many discussions across several states, questions have arisen concerning exactly how the “Tenth Amendment Resolution” will help. A few have also wondered, “What’s Next?.”

Some insight might be gained if we look at the reasons the Resolution came to life. This discussion is primarily intended for legislators, but can be useful for those of you who are working to have it introduced in your state. It may help in your discussions with legislators who you are asking to sponsor or support the resolution.

The principal motivation came from the myriad of federal mandates which have been placed and are planned to be placed on the states. State legislatures feel they have little choice but to implement these mostly-unfunded mandates and pass the cost for implementation to the state taxpayers. For most state legislators, this is a very frustrating dilemma.

The Tenth Amendment assures that we, the people of the United States of America and each sovereign state in the Union of States, now have, and have always had, rights the federal government may not usurp. Article IV, Section 4 says, “The United States shall guarantee to every state in this Union a republican form of government.....”, and the Ninth Amendment states that...”The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people”.

We have, through apathy and lack of will, allowed federal legislators and bureaucrats to assert their will over us and commandeer our funds for their own use.... most of it today outside the authority granted to them by the Constitution.

When a state passes this resolution proclaiming its sovereignty, that state may then claim exemption to most federal mandates under the Tenth Amendment of the U.S. Constitution. This was what happened with New York v. United States, 112 S. Ct. 2408 (1992). The federal government was attempting to mandate that the State of New York accept radioactive waste for disposal. New York pleaded they were exempt from the mandate under the Tenth Amendment and the court affirmed the Tenth Amendment protection. Thus, by having proclaimed sovereignty, a state is in the position to select those mandates they will follow, now by choice, not by edict.

A sovereignty resolution does not preclude any state from participating in any program they choose, but the proponent may no longer claim, “It’s a federal mandate. We have to do it”. Each state legislator, in compliance with his/her oath of office, must then examine closely before passage, the Constitutionality of any law being considered.

Needless to say, the feds may be unimpressed with a statement of sovereignty and attempt to impose economic sanctions against the state, as has become their pattern over the years. In anticipation of this, each state should also create escrow funds for each federally-funded major program. That is, the states will collect the major sources of federal funds, such as gas tax and income tax, in behalf of the federal government and make monthly disbursements to the feds from these escrow funds... but only if the funds are to be used for purposes which are allowed in the Constitution.

The cost for maintaining this flow-through operation can be borne through the short term interest gained from the escrow accounts. It is easy to see the savings that are possible when the bureaucracies established on the federal level to dole out funds to the states are no longer needed.

Additionally, the tremendous tax burden on all Americans can be eased because of the decreased spending. Should the feds then decide to place economic sanctions, generally meaning the withholding of certain funds, the state could then simply stop making the monthly disbursement to the feds and retain the funds in the escrow accounts. When the matter is resolved, and it certainly will be, the disbursements could continue.

This approach also allows the placing of surcharges on those federal payments in order to pay for the cost of implementing federal programs. The exact mechanism for creating these funds will vary from state to state, but the idea is fairly universal. In most cases, the funds in question properly belong to the state in question to begin with. There are those who believe there is no such quantity as “federal funds” in the first place. Every dollar disbursed by the feds originated somewhere through the sweat of someone’s labor.

The sovereignty proclaimed by the state simply inserts the authority of the state, guaranteed by the U.S. Constitution, at a point to re-assert control which should never have been given over. This measure will then relieve the pressure of frustration from a federal government wildly out of control and move the decision process much closer to the people.

Should the feds decide to utilize their hired guns — the judicial system — in order to coerce obedience, sovereignty again allows the state to ignore orders of the court. The feds will not, in my opinion, go to more forceful coercions beyond the court system for fear of triggering their ultimate demise. They do not want this and neither do we. We are perfectly within our rights to proclaim protection from federal oppression by our United States Constitution. It was created with exactly these protections in mind.


How to achieve successful passage of the 10th amendment
State Sovereignty Resolution in your state

The following will suggest a few ideas you may want to use to introduce and assure the success of the passage of the 10th Amendment-State Sovereignty Resolution in your state. Every measure in any state legislature must be introduced by the legislators for that state. The resolution needs a prime sponsor in the House of Representatives, a prime sponsor in the Senate and as many co-sponsors as can be enlisted.

Ordinarily, a legislator who would be interested in a strong Tenth Amendment stance will have an interest in other patriot issues such as Constitutional rights and freedoms, a balanced budget, the right to keep and bear arms, honoring veterans and our American flag, and opposing federal mandates. If you don’t know who these might be, visit or call your state capitol and ask for a status sheet. This is a document that gives the name, number, status and usually the prime sponsor of a bill. Look for key words common to a patriot’s vocabulary, such as those mentioned above.

Then, contact those legislators and discuss the resolution with them. If the legislator you contact has no interest he will generally know another who shares our views and interests. Be certain of the legislator’s stance on patriot issues before you ask him or her to be the prime sponsor. Some legislators will agree, or even ask to be the prime sponsor for the express purpose of inflicting fatal damage to the resolution. Needless to say, these legislators are not our friends and should be avoided.

Now, let’s say you have found a legislator who is acceptable and who has agreed to be the resolution’s prime sponsor. In many states, measures are first assigned to a committee for hearing. This is usually the place where public input is allowed and sought. If possible, find co-sponsors who are on the committee to which the resolution is likely to be assigned... the Chairman of that committee would be excellent. If you have a committee chairman who opposes the resolution, regardless the number of co-sponsors, the resolution could die in that committee as it is the Chairman who decides whether or not to call a measure for vote.

Usually a prime sponsor can ask for an alternate committee assignment if the most probable committee assignment is determined to be a hostile committee. Your prime sponsor should know the likely committee of assignment and the names of the members of that committee. The Committee Chairman can also tell you who the influential members of that committee are. Supporters of the resolution in your state can help the prime sponsor by contacting the members of the committee and asking for their favorable consideration. Be polite. Most legislators lead a fairly demanding lifestyle and a little courtesy will go a long way towards insuring the successful passage of the resolution.

Make preparations to have people from your state testify at the committee hearings. Positive citizen testimony is worth a great deal. Regardless of your anger at the direction your government is going, speak instead of the brighter future that lies ahead for those with the courage to reclaim our freedom as secured by our Constitution. Your prime sponsor will also know the ins and outs of measures in your state. Follow their lead, but offer and be willing to help the process along. The stakes are high (potentially losing our Country).... and the reward is great.

Locate the talk show hosts and columnists in your area who express patriot views. Contact those hosts and columnists and solicit their help in your effort. This should not be difficult, as this subject is of keen interest across America and will generate listeners and readers. The Tenth Amendment is fairly easy to understand and explain, but the implications of its assertion are far-reaching. Some in the media will see that and be glad to lend their support. Finally, enlist your friends, family, neighbors, other groups and organizations to assist you in contacting every member of your state legislature to encourage their support. Pay particular attention to those who refuse, for they are major contributors to the problems facing America. There is strength in numbers.

Take strength from the knowledge that there are those who also love their country and are active in their own states.

Take courage from the spirit that founded our Country.

United in this strength and courage America can and will be once again the great nation which our forefathers envisioned.


Note: Our only disagreement with the above article is in the following sentence: “When a state passes this resolution proclaiming its sovereignty, that state may then claim exemption to most federal mandates under the Tenth Amendment of the U.S. Constitution.” A state does NOT have to pass a 10th Amendment resolution to claim exemption to unConstitutional federal mandates. Notice the sentence following regarding New York.... which had NOT passed a sovereignty resolution: “This was what happened with New York v. United States, 112 S. Ct. 2408 (1992). The federal government was attempting to mandate that the State of New York accept radioactive waste for disposal. New York pleaded they were exempt from the mandate under the Tenth Amendment and the court affirmed the Tenth Amendment protection. Thus, by having proclaimed sovereignty, a state is in the position to select those mandates they will follow, now by choice, not by edict. “


70 posted on 02/04/2009 8:36:38 PM PST by EBH ( Directive 10-289)
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To: Neil E. Wright

Arizona-— doing the right thing ping\/\/\/\/\/\


71 posted on 02/04/2009 8:40:57 PM PST by dcwusmc (We need to make government so small that it can be drowned in a bathtub.)
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To: gwilhelm56
yet you keep reelecting Juan McLAME??

NOT me! I have left that line blank in his last two senatorial elections.

72 posted on 02/04/2009 9:22:11 PM PST by FrogMom (Lord, help us all!)
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To: DLfromthedesert

Yes it’s a start


73 posted on 02/04/2009 9:29:32 PM PST by c-b 1 (Reporting from behind enemy lines, in occupied AZTLAN.)
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To: RegulatorCountry

Are these passed or submitted. There is a big difference between submitting a piece of legislation, which is referred to committee for study, and never seen again, and passing something like this.

All that it would take to do this in 8 or 10 states is a handful or Senators and Representatives in each state. That’s not trivial. It is still significant, but a far cry from states enacting this into law.

The New Hampshire one was much better. It specified that the State was to appoint people to go discuss this with other states, claimed that passage of additional laws violating the 10th would result in the voiding of the Contract between N.H. and the USA, and effectively dissolve their bonds to FedGov.

But again, all that really proves is that there are four or five good politicians in the New Hampshire legislature.

Way better than NONE!


74 posted on 02/04/2009 9:31:27 PM PST by Jack Black
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To: bamahead

Don’t tread on the people of Arizona!


75 posted on 02/04/2009 9:34:34 PM PST by ellery (It's a free country.)
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To: Weight of Glory

NH, MT and several others have or are in the process of doing something similar I have been notified..


76 posted on 02/04/2009 10:42:41 PM PST by JSDude1 (R(epublicans) In Name Only SUCK; D(emocrats) In Name Only are worth their weight..)
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To: wendy1946

Certainly if a State can seceeded, so can a county (a whole state was formed out of a group of them in 1863)-which is now more or less a good state WV.


77 posted on 02/04/2009 10:50:29 PM PST by JSDude1 (R(epublicans) In Name Only SUCK; D(emocrats) In Name Only are worth their weight..)
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To: coon2000
Lincoln trampled the Constitution. If you did not agree with his decision to invade the southern states, you were imprisoned, if you were a newspaper, it was shut down or destroyed.

I have come to believe that the southern states did have the right to secede, constitutionally. The question of slavery throws a monkey wrench into things for me, though. Theoretically, you could justify invading the South in order to enforce constitutional rights for blacks, except that even Lincoln admitted he didn't do it for that reason.

However, if I recall correctly, the Constitution does give the President the power to suspend habeus corpus in time of war, so any imprisonment he did in that period would actually have been constitutional.
78 posted on 02/04/2009 10:54:33 PM PST by fr_freak
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To: Weight of Glory

bttt


79 posted on 02/05/2009 3:56:57 AM PST by Born Conservative (Bohicaville: http://bohicaville.wordpress.com/)
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To: Weight of Glory; djsherin

http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread363374/pg1

http://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message720119/pg1

Every state needs to do this. Let the Feds know the extent of their power.

Just in case they don’t listen, Texas will bring the fireworks to the party.

http://www.pantex.com/


80 posted on 02/05/2009 4:04:23 AM PST by wolfcreek (There is no 2 party system only arrogant Pols and their handlers)
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