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To: Diocletian
Serbian propaganda is that the Serbs were anti-Axis and that Croatians were pro-Axis when the fact is that both sides had collaborators and both sides had those that opposed the Nazis."

You are attempting to equivocate the level of German collaboration when, in fact, the two sides were not "equal" then -- nor is it equal today! A couple of "hairs" on a fabric shirt is not "a hair shirt"!

You might find a handful of lunatic fringe in Belgrade sporting that Nazi stuff, just like you would see Nazi gear on a few here in the US. But the Pavelic tee-shirt I displayed isn't being sold in "downtown Zagreb" -- it is being sold here in the US. They also used to sell that crap on eBay until they got thrown off. I doubt that this Cafe Press retailer even knows that they are selling pro-Nazi memorabilia!

Serbian propaganda is that 700,000 Serbs were killed by the Ustashi when the fact is that only 530,000 Serbs were killed throughout the whole of Yugoslavia during that war from fighting in all conflicts.

The precise number killed are a difficult thing, because Croats weren't "Germans" in a sense of meticulously recording every murder with date, time & place. The Ustase also destroyed many of their records before they abandoned Jasenovac. So reconstruction of numbers dead have been taken from a variety of sources, including the Germans who were there and in a position to know.

That they deliberately destroyed records of their nefarious acts, should not be used to benefit them today to "set their own number" of those they murdered!

73 posted on 02/11/2009 11:23:08 AM PST by Bokababe ( http://www.savekosovo.org)
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To: Bokababe
The precise number killed are a difficult thing

Actually it isn't since we have the numbers of Zerjavic, Kocovic, and the suppressed numbers from the Yugoslav gov't study (they chose to publish the inflated numbers for various political and financial reasons even after Djilas blew the whistle).

You are attempting to equivocate the level of German collaboration when, in fact, the two sides were not "equal" then -- nor is it equal today!

Are you implying that collaboration with Nazi Germany is going on even today? Wow.

Bokababe: how do you square the fact that Momcilo Djujic, head Chetnik of the Serbs in Dalmatia and Lika during WW2 (who then lived in exile in the USA) and part of the Ravna Gora Movement under Draza was a follower of Dimtrije Ljotic and Zbor?

74 posted on 02/11/2009 11:36:20 AM PST by Diocletian
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