Posted on 02/11/2009 5:26:59 PM PST by GodGunsGuts
by Tas Walker
The 12th February 2009 marks the 200th anniversary of Charles Darwin’s birth, and evolutionists around the world want us to make it into a big celebration.
Unlike when Christians celebrate the birth of Jesus Christ, most evolutionists are not open and up-front about what they are on about, or how they feel.
They tell us it’s about the impact of Darwin’s great ideas. But when we ask about the way his ideas underpinned the blood-stained policies of Stalin, Mao, Hitler and Pol Pot they change their tune. Richard Dawkins, Darwin’s famous promoter, put it like this, “I’m a passionate Darwinian when it comes to science, when it comes to explaining the world, but I’m a passionate anti-Darwinian when it comes to morality and politics.”1 They want it both ways.
They pretend it is all about science but when do they make a similar fuss over other scientists, such as Newton, Kepler, Pasteur, or Maxwell? It seems that Darwin is an excuse to banish God. As Dawkins said, “ … Darwin made it possible to be an intellectually fulfilled atheist.”2
They pretend it is all about science but when do they make a similar fuss over other scientists, such as Newton, Kepler, Pasteur, or Maxwell?
They pretend that Darwin is about natural selection, but it was a creationist who first came up with the idea. Furthermore, natural selection is a simple part of the biblical Creation/Fall/Flood/Dispersion model, as a culling rather than a creative force.
What they really mean is that bacteria changed into bananas and butchers all by themselves over billions of years. It’s about removing the need for the Creator, but they won’t usually spell that out, or admit that they have no explanation for how it could possibly happen.
They claim Darwin’s idea of evolution was a great intellectual achievement, but don’t explain that the idea destroys reason itself. It certainly worried Darwin, who wrote, “But then with me the horrid doubt always arises whether the convictions of man’s mind, which has been developed from the mind of the lower animals, are of any value or at all trustworthy. Would any one trust in the convictions of a monkey’s mind, if there are any convictions in such a mind?”3
They ask us to join in their celebrations but don’t give any reason for joy. How can we celebrate a Darwinian universe that has, as Dawkins described it, “no design, no purpose, no evil and no good, nothing but blind pitiless indifference”?4
Darryl Scott, whose teenage daughter was gunned down in the school library by a killer with Natural Selection emblazoned on his tee-shirt, found no comfort in Darwin. He said, “If children are taught that they came from slime, that they evolved from a lower form of life, and that there’s no future after death, then their views of life are affected by that … life really doesn’t have the meaning that it does to children who believe they are created in God’s image and that they have not only this life but a future life as well.”5
Nothing could be more uncaring than the entire process of organic evolution—William Provine, Professor of Biological Science, Cornell University.
William Provine, the son of a (liberal) minister, lost his professed faith to Darwin under the teaching of his evolutionary professor at university. He asks, “How can we have meaning in life? When we die we are really dead; nothing of us survives. Natural selection is a process leading every species almost certainly to extinction and ‘cares’ as much for the HIV virus as for humans. Nothing could be more uncaring than the entire process of organic evolution.”6
What is the sense of celebrating the uncaring process of evolution? C.S. Lewis wondered about this too, and whether there was a hidden agenda: “Does the whole vast structure of modern naturalism depend not on positive evidence but simply on an a priori metaphysical prejudice? Was it devised not to get in facts but to keep out God?”7
Keeping God out has consequences. Serial killer, Jeffrey Dahmer, who murdered 17 people before he was captured, said when interviewed in prison, “If a person doesn’t think there is a God to be accountable to, then—then what’s—what’s the point of—of trying to modify your behavior to keep it within acceptable ranges? That’s how I thought, anyway. I always believed the theory of evolution as truth that we all just came from the slime. When we died, you know, that was it, there is nothing … ”8
No, I find all this hoo-ha about the Darwin celebrations a bit contrived. So do lots of other people, according to the UK Guardian and UK Telegraph.9 Commenting on the latest polls the Telegraph said, “More than half of the public believe that the theory of evolution cannot explain the full complexity of life on Earth, and a ‘designer’ must have lent a hand.”
So, on the occasion of Darwin’s birthday in 2009, the Darwinists themselves would likely feel a bit unhappy about that result. Rather than celebrate, they must feel frustrated at not being able to convince the public after 150 years of continual indoctrination.
Darwin was not a scientist, nor did he practice the scientific method. He was a med-school dropout turned amateur naturalist who attempted to reinterpret the entire history of biology on nothing more than a few minor variations between finches.
Darwin gave atheists the “beginning” they needed to rid themselves of God. Darwin also was wise enough to realize that if a cell were more complex that simple protoplasm his theory would never hold up. As it turns out, a single cell is so incredibly complex that scientists have only a remote understanding of its inner workings. Believing that a human being could accidentally evolve from muck and ooze is as ridiculous as believing that a watch you find on the beach is the result of gravity, chemical reactions with salt water and erosion.
Democracy was an ignorant depressing form of self-inflicted slavery that was demolished 2200 years ago, while Richard Coure d'Leone was one of the greatest proponents of human freedom and dignity to ever live.
“How so?”
Because you argument is anything but self-evident.
1) How does the Bible prove all men are created equal? I can think of a few examples to the contrary: during the flood, God chose Noah and his descendants to survive and populate the earth, and scrapped everyone else. Natural (or supernatural) selection, perhaps? The Bible says the Jews are God’s chosen, and everyone who stood in the ancient Israelites’ way was essentially garbage.
2) How do Darwin’s ideas prove all men are NOT created equal? Darwin says all individuals are not equally capable of surviving to reproduce viable, fertile offspring, which is a fact even non-evolutionists recognize—some genetic conditions prevent individuals from reproducing or surviving to the age of reproduction. It does not follow—nor did Darwin ever say it does—that we should murder or otherwise withhold human rights from those less likely to pass on their genes. A true Darwinian evolutionist would allow nature to take its course in shaping our species instead of trying to manipulate the course of evolution with his bare hands.
“No, it merely points out that it takes faith to believe in either one.”
That’s what I said.
That was me pulling the legs of my fundamentalist brethren. Smile.
It’s hard to tell who’s purposely trying to be absurd on these crevo threads. ;-)
John 3:16
“For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life.
Romans 11:32
32For God has bound all men over to disobedience so that he may have mercy on them all.
2 Peter 3:9
The Lord is not slow in keeping his promise, as some understand slowness. He is patient with you, not wanting anyone to perish, but everyone to come to repentance.
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Does natural selection interested in saving ALL men?
The same as what motivated Bush and the west's aristocracy. They want to protect their property. In today's world it's the well heeled oil barons of America and Europe maintaining the oil extraction infrastructure. In Medieval times, it was the feudal aristocracy protecting their land holdings. These kings were not about to surrender their holdings to invading Arabs. The monarchs didn't care about religion. In reality, neither do the Arabs. It's all about power and wealth. It was that way before Christ and Mohammad. It's that way after them.
Note carefully we engaged the Arabs Under Bush I and Bush II (aristocrats). We avoided them under Clinton (not an aristocrat). Don't expect Obama to turn up the heat on the Arabs. Also, don't expect the end of days anytime soon.
Interesting take. I could go on and on about this subject, but my main focus is Creation vs. Evolution at the moment. Personally, I want leaders who will look after our interests, and if that depends on supporting the “aristocratic class” who are simply looking after their own interests (so long as they don’t conflict with mine), then so bit. Btw, I was no big fan of either Bush I or Bush II. The only president I have ever (almost) completely agreed with in my limited time on earth is Ronald Reagan.
later.
Saw good episode on Nat. Geo. TV last night on this topic.
[[And what idea underpinned the Crusades, the Inquisition, the French Wars of Religion, the 30 Years War, etc., etc., etc.?]
You mean that Crusades which killed what? 10,000 people? As compared to say secularists who murdered what? A billion or so in the name of socialism and comunism? Golly- that’s quite an arguemt you got htere- And JFYI- the crusades were carried out by secularists- commissioned by the government- and who were NOT true Christians- but who took it upon themselves to abuse the position of hte church at hte behest of a corrupt governing body to which they were beholden because they had sold their souls for the sake of power and corrupt ‘prestige’ and favour from the government-
Cripes- Everytime this accusaiton is brought up this needs to be pointed out- but folks like you just simply ignore it, Deny that those that carried out those terrible orders were infact NOT TRUE Christians, but wolves in sheeps clothing. The Spirit of God was NOT in them and it shoudl be obvious to anyone- but apparently, some are so lustful to indict the whole of Christianity that they will ignore these FACTS just to satisfy their own anti-Christian sentiminets- But- if it makes you feel better about your spiritual condition- then by all means- keep bringign this up as though it indicts the whole of Christianity- Who by the way- were murdered in the millions, and continue to be murdered by the 100’s of 1000’s even today. So yes, let’s throw some numbers aro8und, and pretend that religion is the the problem, when the FACT is that it is secularists posing as Christians who carry out hte orders of who again? Oh yeah- more secularists
[[I guess that puts neither evolutionists nor creationists in a position to criticize each other for relying on faith.]]
Actually, we need not totally rely on faith when there is an abundance of evidnece that both shows a distinct NEED for an intelligence behind hte ID and IC that is present in nature, and hwen that same evidence shows that naturalism just doesn’t cut the mustard- Beyond reasonable doubt. God told us His fingerprints are all around us, and by golly ID science is discovering just that.
What’s that whatajoke? You have to attack Hisd service to our country because why? You have nothign else with which to fight for your cause? Ignorant ad hominem attacks on folks who served our country selflessly are uncalled for
We didn’t come from monkeys. That is a philosophical speculation by the Temple of Darwinistic Materialism that is falsified by God’s Word, and (which would come as no surprise if you would ask God to open your eyes and your heart) the fossil record.
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