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Swiss party wants to punish U.S. for UBS probe
Reuters ^ | 02.21.09 | reuters

Posted on 02/22/2009 10:37:50 AM PST by dollarbull

ZURICH, Feb 21 (Reuters) - The right-wing Swiss People's Party (SVP) called on Saturday for retaliation against the United States over a U.S. tax probe into the country's biggest bank UBS that threatens prized banking secrecy.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy
KEYWORDS: gold; ubs
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To: Regulator
Maybe they think your money is none of the bureaucrat’s business, and that when you open a bank account it isn’t because you wanted to drop your shorts to the looter class.

Maybe we come from different vantage points, but from where I sit the looter class would seem to include embezzlers, Ponzi schemers, smugglers, drug kingpins and other sorts squirreling away ill-gotten gains. Those are just the sort of scoundrels who require numbered accounts. Maybe if you knew any victims of people like Bernard Madoff you would agree.

21 posted on 02/22/2009 11:02:24 AM PST by Alter Kaker (Gravitation is a theory, not a fact. It should be approached with an open mind...)
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To: dollarbull

The Swiss are a landlocked people with few natural resorces (although fantastic scenery). They chose their banking policies and political neutrality in order to give themselves a strong economy without the major industries of other Western nations. Threatening their banking policies would be like telling Miller and Budweiser that they can’t brew beer anymore. It’s a threat to the foundation of their economy. Should anyone be surprised that the Swiss would resist this for all their worth and threaten revenge on anyone who forces them to change?

Why is that difficult to understand?


22 posted on 02/22/2009 11:03:06 AM PST by OrangeHoof (YES WE CAN have a Depression.)
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To: cbkaty
Wow....and then they swept freedom and privacy out the door....fools are born every minute.

Boo hoo. I think terrorists surrendered their right to privacy long ago. Sorry you disagree.

23 posted on 02/22/2009 11:04:23 AM PST by Alter Kaker (Gravitation is a theory, not a fact. It should be approached with an open mind...)
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To: OrangeHoof
Threatening their banking policies would be like telling Miller and Budweiser that they can’t brew beer anymore. It’s a threat to the foundation of their economy.

So? Why is that any business of America's? Finance used to be a major industry in America, too, until people like Bernard Madoff scammed the public and hid their loot in secret Swiss bank accounts.

24 posted on 02/22/2009 11:06:39 AM PST by Alter Kaker (Gravitation is a theory, not a fact. It should be approached with an open mind...)
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To: SeeSharp
My sympathies are for tax evaders.

How generous of you. We all pay more so they can avoid taxes.

25 posted on 02/22/2009 11:08:10 AM PST by Alter Kaker (Gravitation is a theory, not a fact. It should be approached with an open mind...)
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To: SeeSharp

Yeah... got to protect all those thieves and others who secret away truckloads of money out of reach of the Feds who are pursuing them.


26 posted on 02/22/2009 11:14:23 AM PST by TheBattman (Pray for our country....)
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To: Alter Kaker
How generous of you. We all pay more so they can avoid taxes.

Well given that all taxation is a form of theft I can't begrudge someone getting out of it just because I didn't.

27 posted on 02/22/2009 11:15:58 AM PST by SeeSharp
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To: TheBattman
Yeah... got to protect all those thieves and others who secret away truckloads of money out of reach of the Feds who are pursuing them.

Most of them are perfectly legitimate account holders whose only crime is to have made a profit in their business endeavors.

28 posted on 02/22/2009 11:17:56 AM PST by SeeSharp
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To: SeeSharp
I hate to see the Swiss give up their bank secrecy principle.

If you have probable cause that a crime has been committed, the Swiss will grant information on a case by case basis.

What the IRS wants, however, is unfettered access to the account information without any evidence of wrongdoing. They are on a fishing trip.

Hopefully the Swiss will stand up to the jackbooted scum bag blackmailing extortionists at the IRS.
29 posted on 02/22/2009 11:20:29 AM PST by microgood
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To: Alter Kaker
We all pay more so they can avoid taxes.

< Pedantic >

Tax avoidance is the legal process of gaming the system to minimize taxes.

Tax evasion is illegal tax cheating.

< /Pedantic >

Personally I think it's immoral NOT to 'starve the beast' in any way you can get away with.

30 posted on 02/22/2009 11:23:48 AM PST by Dinsdale
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To: SeeSharp
Most of them are perfectly legitimate account holders whose only crime is to have made a profit in their business endeavors and failed to report the income.

Fixed that for you.

Like I said I consider that illegal but moral.

31 posted on 02/22/2009 11:26:23 AM PST by Dinsdale
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To: SeeSharp
My sympathies are for tax evaders.

Democrat Politicians?

32 posted on 02/22/2009 11:26:41 AM PST by Doe Eyes
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To: Dinsdale
Personally I think it's immoral NOT to 'starve the beast' in any way you can get away with.

Amen, brother.

33 posted on 02/22/2009 11:26:44 AM PST by Trailerpark Badass (Happiness is a choice!)
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To: Doe Eyes
"My sympathies are for tax evaders."

Democrat Politicians?

Allow me to rephrase. My sympathies are for those who evade taxes on their earnings. That ought to exclude the Democrats.

34 posted on 02/22/2009 11:33:07 AM PST by SeeSharp
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To: Alter Kaker

“How generous of you. We all pay more so they can avoid taxes.”

Not if you weren’t so whiney and followed their example.

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35 posted on 02/22/2009 11:33:22 AM PST by Gatún(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer)
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To: Alter Kaker
So? Why is that any business of America's?

It's NOT any business of America's. The Swiss banks have done their privacy thing for generations and the world has survived. I see no reason for us to stick out noses in it now.

But if you take that away from them, Swiss banks will be no different than banks anywhere else in the world and you'll destroy their economy.

36 posted on 02/22/2009 11:53:52 AM PST by OrangeHoof (YES WE CAN have a Depression.)
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To: Gatún(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer)

It just goes to show you, nobody’s neutral. You just have to find what really pisses them off.


37 posted on 02/22/2009 11:57:37 AM PST by johnnycap
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To: OrangeHoof

Good points...

I can understand the Swiss being a little upset over their traditional banking secrecy laws...its the backbone of their economy.

Unfortunately this Globalist world we live in lacks the respect of nations to set their own rules and laws.

As long as another nation is not threatening the safety and security of the other...then there should be no interference with another nation’s laws

If the US was so concerned with people and businesses evading tax laws by opening accounts in bank-secrecy countries...then prohibit those individuals and companies from investing there in the first place.

In other words....if Swiss banks are a problem...keep US companies from shifting wealth over there...instead of forcing another nation to circumvent laws

Of course...a tax plan like the FairTax would never put US business or individuals in this situation in the first place...and not upset the Swiss


38 posted on 02/22/2009 12:04:08 PM PST by UCFRoadWarrior (The Biggest Threat To American Soverignty Is Rampant Economic Anti-Americanism)
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To: Dinsdale
Ihave made a profit in their business endeavors and failed to report the income. Fixed that for you.

...and tell us why if income is earned outside the USA, the USA needs to..wants to...and does tax that income. It's none of the US Government's damn business how much revenue I generate outside of these shrinking free borders. If the government needs more funding let them collect it from all the dead-beat politicians, political nominees and government employees (USPS).

39 posted on 02/22/2009 12:49:39 PM PST by A_Tradition_Continues (formerly known as Politicalwit ...05/28/98...Ain't no Newbie!)
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To: dollarbull

Instead of screaming for the heads of the “tax evaders” and demanding that Swiss banks suddenly begin selling out their clients, we should be telling our government to spend within its means and let people keep the damned money they earn. It belongs to the folks who earn it, not to the federal thugs who want to confiscate it. Leftists want us all to hate those “evil tax dodgers.” Just as they want us to hate the “rich”. Personally, I’d very much like to be a rich tax dodger. And I could just hate the government!


40 posted on 02/22/2009 1:01:23 PM PST by Oldpuppymax (AGENDA OF THE LEFT EXPOSED)
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