Posted on 02/23/2009 10:05:02 AM PST by GodGunsGuts
If I have this straight, you are saying that evolution has a purpose?
Logical fallicy. Simply because there is no discernable cause for punishment, does not mean that weather is not simply behaving as intended (see volcano reference above).
If God sends a tornado as punishment to a deserving crowd, then those who die were given opportunity to repent. This does not preclude people from dying as a result of natural disaster simply because they happened to be in the road of bad weather. The two are not connected. However, we as limited humans cannot directly tell the difference.
Please point out where it says that God's plan did NOT involve evolution.
Thank you for the dictionary definition—I never would have thought of that!
However, the dictionary presents man’s definition of chance, not God’s definition. To God, there is no chance. Given that, even the random, chance occurrences that are part of evolutionary theory are all part of God’s plan.
You must have missed the whole "creation" thing?
Creation involves purpose and design.
Oh. So some people have a chance to repent but others do not because they, by chance, were in the route of bad weather?
Then you disagree with those that promote ID?
If we as limited humans cannot directly tell the difference, how do you know there is a difference?
God's definition is ours since He gave us the mind to understand the world around us. He created our rational mind, our logic, our reason. Every definition we conceive has been pre-ordained by God.
You are correct in saying the to God, there is no chance. Simply because we see it as chance does not mean it is so to the Master. Consider this, were we to be able to account for every occurance, every reaction to some action, then there would be no such word as 'random' or 'chance'. God has this ability being Omniscient and Omnipotent. Part of His job description.
You are kidding, right? What does the "D" in "ID" stand for?
No, I am not. Please respond. Do you agree with ID or not?
Excellent question. Those who repent and turn to God, to them, they see the difference. God's purpose is served. Man is redeemed.
Do you see the cross as a symbol of torture and death, or do you see it as a symbol of what God did for you out of love?
You must be. Intelligent Design is a scientific method that allows for an intelligent designer. What precisely is your question?
Exactly. Evolution may not be based on randomness or chance and we should not discount it on that basis. We as mere mortals cannot limit God's power.
Why do you keep ducking the question? Are you afraid to take a stand on whether or not ID may be a valid theory?
“...He gave us the mind to understand the world around us. He created our rational mind, our logic, our reason.”
Precisely. We use the mind that God gave us to postulate that evolution is the path that God took to get us here.
Doesn't ID also say that life first formed in pools of scum and that man evolved from these early life forms over billions of years?
Then it is not evolution, but design and creation. Evolution dictates the means by which man has emerged as random.
I am not ducking any question. Give one and I will answer it. Simply asking if I agree with some obscure point that only you know, does not constitute me "ducking".
I will try again. Is Intelligent Design theory consistent with your viewpoints on man's creation?
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