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Arkansas smokers buy Missouri's cigarettes (4 cartons= Felony!)
Arkansas Democrat Gazette ^ | Feb 22, 2009 | Bill Bowden

Posted on 02/25/2009 7:06:42 AM PST by ozark hilljilly

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And as for those "cheap" Indian cigs, the article mentions this towards the end:

"Along the Oklahoma border, the Cherokee Nation was known for smoke shops and cheap cigarettes. But that changed on Nov. 21, when a new agreement between the Cherokees and the state of Oklahoma blew the cigarette tax from 11 cents per pack to 66.5 cents in the border tribal land along the Arkansas state line.

That means, since Nov. 21, the cigarette tax was higher in the Cherokee Nation than in Arkansas. But that will change on March 1. And the Arkansas tax will be higher by 12 cents over Oklahoma's $1.03 per pack in non-Indian shops."

They got us coming and going, folks. Wow, a carton and a pack from out of state will now make you a criminal. Let's hear it for Change!

1 posted on 02/25/2009 7:06:43 AM PST by ozark hilljilly
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To: ozark hilljilly

The last pack of Winstons I bought cost $.50.


2 posted on 02/25/2009 7:10:51 AM PST by Eric in the Ozarks
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LOL ... time to buy an old clunker car, load it with cigarettes and head south toward Fayetteville.


3 posted on 02/25/2009 7:12:19 AM PST by mgc1122
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To: ozark hilljilly
raising the price by $5.60 for a wholesale carton that likely will be passed on to retail customers.

A paper with "Democrat" in the title actually tells people that taxes on producers are passed on to consumers? I'm confused.

4 posted on 02/25/2009 7:12:25 AM PST by Blood of Tyrants (The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money. Margret Thatcher)
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"This will take additional man-power to keep tobacco smuggling in check." "If cigarette smuggling becomes a problem, then we would step up, at the direction of our director," said Capt. Lance King, with Troop L of the Arkansas State Police in Springdale. "But we haven't yet."

OMG. Illegals and DRUGS are being smuggled into Arkansas daily. I don't see the additional man-power to keep THEM in check.

What are they going to do? Set up road blockades between State Lines to check for contraband cigarettes?

5 posted on 02/25/2009 7:12:52 AM PST by spectre (sw )(Congress lied...the economy died)
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To: ozark hilljilly

Massachusetts residents have been going up to New Hampshire for years.

Now, we’re going for candy (new candy tax coming) and sugary drinks (new sugary drinks tax coming) and gasoline (new gas tax coming)......and fireworks.

MA actually has State troopers that sit in parking lots in NH and they follow MA residents back to MA and THEN bust ‘em with their fireworks.


6 posted on 02/25/2009 7:13:23 AM PST by ElectricStrawberry
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“Arkansans may legally possess one carton plus one pack of cigarettes that don't have an Arkansas cigarette tax”

Gotta love it. Just wait until, in the scramble to prop up their bloated, wasteful budget, Localities start imposing their own taxes. Guess they'll set up roadblocks to frisk people going from one city to another. LOL

7 posted on 02/25/2009 7:14:10 AM PST by TCats
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I live on the PA/NJ border (all water - the Delaware River).

People cross the bridges from NJ to PA to buy cigarettes and fireworks. There are smoke shops and firework shops within a stone's throw of nearly every bridge.

People cross the bridge from PA to NJ to buy beer and alcohol. PA still has prohibition laws on the books (only PA state shops can sell alcohol and you can only buy beer by the case in these stores). NJ has no silly rules has much greater selection, better hours and lower costs in their stores (again, many a stone's throw from any bridge).

And yes, both states have silly laws about "smuggling" or "bootlegging" across state lines...

8 posted on 02/25/2009 7:15:23 AM PST by 2banana (My common ground with terrorists - they want to die for islam and we want to kill them)
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To: ElectricStrawberry

And that’s also what’s heading our way, too! It’s insane.

Guess I picked a bad time to get into the retail grocery trade. : (


9 posted on 02/25/2009 7:16:03 AM PST by ozark hilljilly (I don't even think I think!)
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This is sort of off topic, but when I worked at a local liquor store chain in Springfield, MO, I would see people from Oklahoma buying anywhere from 4 to 10 cases of beer to take back home with them. They hated the 3.2% beer that they got in OK. They wanted the 5% beer that Missouri has. I wondered if they could get busted for bootlegging the booze over the border like was mentioned in this article.


10 posted on 02/25/2009 7:16:36 AM PST by Hatheos
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Don’t let Huckabee know. He’ll run for Ark gov again to stamp out such evil. LOL


11 posted on 02/25/2009 7:16:45 AM PST by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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Here in PA there are posters inside cigarette retailers that say The State shall be "watching" your debit card purchases and if they suspect you are crossing state lines to buy smokes, you're in trouble.
12 posted on 02/25/2009 7:18:14 AM PST by Dasaji (On a beach somewhere in my head...)
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Obummer just raised the tax on loose tobacco from $1.10 a pound to $25 a pound! Starts April 1st.


13 posted on 02/25/2009 7:18:33 AM PST by Beagle8U (FreeRepublic -- One stop shopping ....... Its the Conservative Super WalMart for news .)
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To: ozark hilljilly

how can that felony be constitutional?

it is a commerce clause violation (mudflap line of cases and all that)


14 posted on 02/25/2009 7:18:48 AM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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The last time this was done, NASCAR was born. Junior Johnson and a host of others were bootleggers for white lightening.

What might come from tobacco bootlegging?

15 posted on 02/25/2009 7:18:48 AM PST by Born In America (To compel a man to furnish funds for the propagation of ideas he disbelieves and abhors is sinful)
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LOL ... time to buy an old clunker car, load it with cigarettes and head south toward Fayetteville.

Last time I was in Ukraine a couple of years ago Marlboros sold for $0.60/pack. In Dubai, Marlboros are $10/carton. It's only a matter of time before people in the smuggling business start filling up boats with foreign-purchased smokes.

Lawmakers are killing the golden goose with a combination of higher tobacco taxes and further smoking restrictions. The need 21 million new smokers and every existing smoker just to pay for SCHIP and in me they just lost a 23 year smoker when I finally threw in the towel last year and quit.

16 posted on 02/25/2009 7:19:21 AM PST by Drew68
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To: Dasaji
If this is true, we're in trouble.
17 posted on 02/25/2009 7:19:29 AM PST by spectre (sw )(Congress lied...the economy died)
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To: ozark hilljilly

Go to AZ or NM and go to the indian reservations and get smokes tax free.

Government makes 10 times more profit on smokes then the people that make them and gov does nothing for it.

Is this right?


18 posted on 02/25/2009 7:19:42 AM PST by edcoil (Slave owners could justify themselves too. Think about it Arnold.)
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To: ElectricStrawberry

Yeah, and just wait until all the states start requiring you to have GPS to tax your miles driven. They can then probably go get a court order to see that you’ve been driving to the next state’s convenience store an awful lot. People, learn to grow your own.


19 posted on 02/25/2009 7:21:53 AM PST by SaintDismas
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To: Beagle8U

“Obummer just raised the tax on loose tobacco from $1.10 a pound to $25 a pound! Starts April 1st.”

Yes. The tax increase in Apr. applies to all tobacco products-cigars, cigs, loose, snuff, chew. I still don’t know all the variations- .62 cents a pack on cigs, but I honestly don’t know what the increases will be on the other stuff. I sell a lot of chew, have no idea what the tax will be on that.


20 posted on 02/25/2009 7:23:08 AM PST by ozark hilljilly (I don't even think I think!)
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