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Ex-assemblyman pushes plan to split California into two states
SacBee ^ | Published: Thursday, Feb. 26, 2009 - 12:00 am | E.J. Schultz

Posted on 02/26/2009 9:07:21 PM PST by BenLurkin

The revolution will begin in Visalia – and it will be led by a man named Maze.

As in Bill Maze, a termed-out Assembly member turned rebel who is pushing for California to split in two: the conservative interior as one state and the liberal coast as another.

"We're looking at establishing a breakaway state," he said, with a new government and a new capital. "We'd actually be creating a 51st state."

He is tapping into the anger of farmers and others who say environmental rules and high taxes are sending the state into a tailspin.

"Citizens of our once 'Golden State' are frustrated and desperately concerned about the imposition of burdensome regulations, taxation, fees, fees and more fees, and bureaucratic intrusion into our daily lives and businesses," declares downsizeca.org, the movement's Web site.

Under Maze's plan, 13 coastal counties from Los Angeles to Marin would split from the remaining 45 counties, which the Web site calls "the new revitalized California." To promote the idea, Maze has established a nonprofit group called Citizens for Saving California Farming Industries.

Meanwhile, Maze is selling the plan up and down the state, appearing on television and radio shows. With enough money and momentum, he hopes to put the question before the state's voters. According to the U.S. Constitution, Congress and the state Legislature would have to sign off.

Californians have tried to parcel the state 27 times before, with most attempts never getting far off the ground, said former Republican Assemblyman Stan Statham, who made the last serious attempt in the early 1990s.

The most famous secession movement came in 1941, when several counties in Northern California and southern Oregon tried to form the State of Jefferson – until World War II intervened.

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1 posted on 02/26/2009 9:07:21 PM PST by BenLurkin
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To: Canticle_of_Deborah

Ping


2 posted on 02/26/2009 9:10:52 PM PST by nickcarraway (Are the Good Times Really Over?)
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To: BenLurkin

Been tried a couple of times in Washington. Tried to make a state called Cascade. Basically everything east of the Cascade mountains to the border of Idaho. Never worked.


3 posted on 02/26/2009 9:11:13 PM PST by irishtenor (What if Pro Wrestling is real and all the rest of life is fake?)
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To: irishtenor

If it were Oakland alone, would it be The State of The Jeffersons?


4 posted on 02/26/2009 9:13:52 PM PST by Wally_Kalbacken
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To: BenLurkin

I talked to Maze the other day. He is very serious about this. I am one of those angry farmers saying “please God let it happen”. Bill said we would even offer to take the $42 billion debt from the wack job libs. No state income tax, pro business, conservative values, ... we would pay that debt off in a heart beat. Business would flock to the new state. Go Maze!!!! Getter done


5 posted on 02/26/2009 9:14:05 PM PST by DirtyDawg
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To: BenLurkin

> The most famous secession movement came in 1941, when several counties in Northern California and southern Oregon tried to form the State of Jefferson – until World War II intervened.<

How bout’ NoDemfornia?


6 posted on 02/26/2009 9:15:25 PM PST by max americana
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To: BenLurkin

I have friends in Visalia and Reedley. I know they would be all for this.


7 posted on 02/26/2009 9:15:43 PM PST by Tex Pete (Obama for Change: from our pockets, our piggy banks, and our couch cushions!)
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To: irishtenor

Now might be a time to try it again???


8 posted on 02/26/2009 9:16:26 PM PST by goodnesswins (Conservative and fighting for freedom and liberty....whether you like it or not.)
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To: BenLurkin

Maybe I do want to move to the Central Valley after all. As a conservative in deep-blue Santa Clara County, I get mighty lonely out here...

Oh, and the coastal areas can have Imperial County. It votes pretty much like they do (large immigrant population).


9 posted on 02/26/2009 9:17:21 PM PST by ZirconEncrustedTweezers (Repeal the 16th!)
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To: BenLurkin; ElkGroveDan; calcowgirl; tubebender; hedgetrimmer; forester; Grampa Dave; ...
"...downsizeca.org, the movement's Web site."

So far, I really like this idea as I've articulated it here on FR off and on for at least the past 5 years!!!

My idea was that any county in contact with sea water including shipping canals/ports, or any international border would remain CALIFORNA REPUBLIC and the rest becomes SIERRA REPUBLIC!!!

10 posted on 02/26/2009 9:18:06 PM PST by SierraWasp (Remember THIS!!! Government doesn't have ANY money!!! (of it's own) I'm in contempt of CONgress!!!)
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To: BenLurkin

This kind of talk just pisses me off. Splitting away from liberals isn’t going to solve a damn thing, unless you outlaw liberalism and Democrats at the same time. And you’d better lock your borders down tight to keep them from migrating into your new state.

The right thing to do, is defeat the lunatics, not cave in to them by leaving. Eventually, the whole darn country would be nothing more than a collection of non-contiguous, Balkanized states.

In the time it would take the red states to prove the blue states wrong, the (former) US would be attacked and rendered permanently impotent.

E Pluribus Unum, dammit.


11 posted on 02/26/2009 9:19:18 PM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Windflier

How’s that working for you?


12 posted on 02/26/2009 9:21:07 PM PST by DirtyDawg
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To: BenLurkin

San Diego with a 70 mile coast line and a population over 3 million does not have in common much with the small inland towns in the mid and north.

A non starter.

Cut the state in thirds from west to east.


13 posted on 02/26/2009 9:21:27 PM PST by SoCalPol (Reagan Republican for Palin - Jindal 2012)
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To: BenLurkin

If that new state needs any $$$ I might send 1 or 2.


14 posted on 02/26/2009 9:22:37 PM PST by madison10
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To: BenLurkin

Unfortunately,the liberals have spread like a cancer to counties like mine(Placer).


15 posted on 02/26/2009 9:25:59 PM PST by willk
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To: BenLurkin

Not going to happen. Liberal Dems rely on the 54 votes every presidential election cycle..


16 posted on 02/26/2009 9:26:46 PM PST by Tzimisce (http://groups.myspace.com/nailthemessiah)
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To: BenLurkin
The Dems will never let this happen.

They can count on those 53 electoral votes every four years now - with this split they lose half of them.

They will fight this to the death.

17 posted on 02/26/2009 9:26:47 PM PST by ZOOKER ( Exploring the fine line between cynicism and outright depression)
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To: goodnesswins

Would be nice, but, unfortunately, I am living on the, shall we say, “WRONG” side of the track :>)


18 posted on 02/26/2009 9:27:04 PM PST by irishtenor (What if Pro Wrestling is real and all the rest of life is fake?)
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To: DirtyDawg
How’s that working for you?

Make a statement. Take a position. Ask a real question.

Or, just keep throwing peanuts from the balcony.

19 posted on 02/26/2009 9:27:31 PM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Tzimisce

ONE SECOND! Beaten by one second


20 posted on 02/26/2009 9:30:53 PM PST by ZOOKER ( Exploring the fine line between cynicism and outright depression)
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