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Porn, Pot and Abortion
Exclusive to FreeRepublic ^ | 2/27/2009 | DouglasKC

Posted on 02/27/2009 8:34:48 AM PST by DouglasKC

Porn, Pot and Abortion

You may have read that the Obama administration has altered United States government policy and has sanctioned "medical" marijuana by ending raids on "clinics" where "medical" marijuana is passed out.

The use of quotes in the paragraph above is deliberate. It's my view and the views of millions of conservatives that there is no such thing as "medical" marijuana...or at least in the way it's being presented to the public.

"Medical" marijuana is simply a term for pot being sold for profit under the guise that it helps a plethora of medical problems. The "clinics" are essentially drug dens that are attempting to gain a little more respectability. It has been the policy of the United States government to raid and shut down these clinics.

Now here's the problem. There are many so called conservatives that support these drug dens. They say that it's a states right issue. That this isn't a power delegated to the United States government.

Clearly this is a debatable point. For example I would offer that it's in the best interest of the country to ban something that is in the worst interest of the country. For example if we had a communist power develop a drug that would make our citizens lazy and unproductive then nobody would argue that we should allow this power to freely distribute this drug in the United States. There would be no hew and cry about "states rights".

But nonetheless there are those who have seized upon the issue of "medical" marijuana as the ultimate expression of states rights. That's fine. That's their rights as Americans. But here's what I wish.

I wish they would be honest and apply the same standard to abortion and pornography. I wish they would stand up and proclaim that abortion and pornography are in the same league. Because if you want to embrace their viewpoint you MUST embrace pornography and abortion.

Abortion, by their logic, should also be a state right. Pornography, by their logic, should also be a state right. Yet the federal government has mandated, by court decisions and law, that the support of these issues are the law of the land.

Now I happen to believe the opposite. I think these two issues are so dangerous to the country as a whole that they SHOULD be banned nationwide for the common welfare of the union of states.

What happened? It's easy. Religious morality stopped in government. We went from a nation governed by religion based morals a government based on amoral, or immoral principles. And let me make it clear..when I say religious morals I'm talking precisely about Judeo-Christian morality...or at least what this morality used to be.

And here's what these so called new conservatives fail to conserve. They fail to conserve the religious morality that stopped our leaders from ruling from a non-principled viewpoint. They fail to conserve the idea that right and wrong don't come from man or man's laws, but from God, the creator of man. They fail to conserve the notion that certain things are repugnant to God and to those who have His morals.

They have taken up the mantle of the 60's generation. Sex and drugs. Don't tell us what to do. We don't like your morals. Once they succeeded in tearing down God, they began working on the government.

John Adams, the 2nd President of the United States said "Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other."

Oh so true. Without morals and religion our constitution fails. It breaks. It doesn't work. It's inadequate. It can be twisted and shaped to whatever viewpoint the rulers want.

Pot. Abortion. Pornography. All of these are issues that a moral people and a moral government instinctively reject. But remove morality from the equation and anything goes. God save us.


TOPICS: Government; Miscellaneous; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: abortion; angrydopers; anslingersghost; blackjazzmusicians; bloggersandpersonal; channelingharry; culturewars; jackbootedthugs; marijuana; moralabsolutes; pot
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To: DouglasKC

We probably have 500,000, mostly male, being prescribed pure ‘meth’ right now for Attention Deficit Disorder.

Nice huh?

Bunch of red blooded young boys/men, trapped in feminist/gay/socialist boring low quality government schools all day, every day and the government and ‘Doctors’ just dope’m up. They hit 18, out of school, all screwed up and their young bodies f’ed up from the long term use( by then for them) and they hit the streets.

It ‘legal’. It’s paid by the government. It’s done by professionals.


121 posted on 02/27/2009 10:00:16 AM PST by Leisler
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To: Dan7878787
"Yes, there are people who drink too much, but they are the minority"

I prefer to think of myself as an 'elite', thank you very much.

122 posted on 02/27/2009 10:02:52 AM PST by Leisler
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To: mkjessup
Common sense, it looks like.
123 posted on 02/27/2009 10:03:48 AM PST by starlifter (Sapor Amo Pullus)
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To: starlifter
Common sense, it looks like.

That depends on what substance is clouding their vision.
124 posted on 02/27/2009 10:04:46 AM PST by mkjessup (You're either with our Constitution, or you are with TKU ("The Kenyan Usurper"). CHOOSE!!!)
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To: mkjessup
That was in response to your post 120.
125 posted on 02/27/2009 10:05:09 AM PST by starlifter (Sapor Amo Pullus)
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To: starlifter

And this is in response to your post 125.

Enjoy your weekend.


126 posted on 02/27/2009 10:06:15 AM PST by mkjessup (You're either with our Constitution, or you are with TKU ("The Kenyan Usurper"). CHOOSE!!!)
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To: mkjessup
Ipso facto, if they disagree with you then they MUST be stoned, or drunk, or something...why, no RIGHT THINKING person could honestly disagree with you. That would upset the equilibrium of the universe.
127 posted on 02/27/2009 10:07:01 AM PST by starlifter (Sapor Amo Pullus)
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To: Dan7878787

putting ANY drug into your body that has not been prescibed for you (and even then at times) is corrupting your own body. I can see any day of the week a wreaked body prone to septic shock, brain damage....damage to internal organs necessary to live life......and I drag their sorry @sses to the ER in comas....you cannot tell me anything when you have not gone to the streets of your own community and carried on stretchers to the ER those lost souls. even smokers...yes smokers......COPD is a lousy way to die...slow and tortuous...think about it.


128 posted on 02/27/2009 10:08:12 AM PST by tioga
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To: DouglasKC
"But no doctor is going to prescribe a fifth of Jim Beam to overcome cancer pain."

Jim Beam needs no prescription. Yet, there IS such a thing as medicinal alcohol. And as yet, I am not aware that Doctors might be prescribing either Jim Beam or medicinal alcohol to overcome cancer pain.

"And nobody thinks moonshine cures cancer."

Is there someone on this thread who thinks it does?

"And nobody thinks smoking crack is healthy."

Again, is there someone on this thread who thinks it IS healthy?

129 posted on 02/27/2009 10:09:15 AM PST by Enterprise (A Representative Republic - gone now. Foolish people.)
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To: starlifter
Ipso facto, if they disagree with you then they MUST be stoned, or drunk, or something...why, no RIGHT THINKING person could honestly disagree with you. That would upset the equilibrium of the universe.

OK then, have a sh*tty weekend. lol
130 posted on 02/27/2009 10:10:08 AM PST by mkjessup (You're either with our Constitution, or you are with TKU ("The Kenyan Usurper"). CHOOSE!!!)
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To: DouglasKC
I wish they would stand up and proclaim that abortion and pornography are in the same league

Don't be an idiot. When you are old and cancer has ravaged your body and you're vomiting non-stop from the chemo, get an abortion, view some porn and smoke some pot. See which one gives you some comfort. Or maybe you just enjoy it when people suffer while you're perched atop your high horse. No pun intended.
131 posted on 02/27/2009 10:10:43 AM PST by LanaTurnerOverdrive ("I've done a few things in my life I'm not proud of, and the things I am proud of are disgusting.")
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To: mkjessup

“btw, Liberaltarian?!? Is that the best you guys got left?”

“So what have you got?”

intellectual honesty, perhaps.


132 posted on 02/27/2009 10:10:52 AM PST by fnord (There's a reason we don't often hear about a Michelob deal gone bad.)
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To: fnord; mkjessup

BURN


133 posted on 02/27/2009 10:12:12 AM PST by TheKidster (you can only trust government to grow, consolidate power and infringe upon your liberties.)
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To: yazoo
Pornography is an issue which definitely falls under the constitution as a free speech issue. Whether we like it or not, until someone can define exactly what constitutes pornography, which will never happen, it is impossible to regulate. I know people who think any nudity in a film is pornographic. I don’t want the government determining for me what is pornography and what isn’t. We may not like pornography but each of us should determine for ourselves what we want to view or not view.

Moral relatively. This is exactly the attitude that leftists pushed to get a destructive behavior mainstream. And it worked.

Abortion is a totally different issue. While I think it should be left up to the States to ban or regulate it, I can see a perfectly legitimate argument for the Constitution making it illegal. We are all entitled to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness unless we are in the womb, and then the freedom can be taken away at the whim of a mother.

Sorry, you're being inconsistent. If it's not an enumerated power than it's reserved to the states...at least that's the opinion of leftist cause supporting conservatives.

134 posted on 02/27/2009 10:13:34 AM PST by DouglasKC
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To: jimt
Proven health hazards of marijuana.

1 out of 2 isn't bad.

135 posted on 02/27/2009 10:14:34 AM PST by <1/1,000,000th%
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To: Nova442
The author assumes that because he opposes porn/pot/drugs on the same grounds (religious) that others must either support all or oppose all with a unified rationale. This is a logical fallacy because the issues can be divided and supported or opposed on different grounds.

I don't oppose them merely on religious grounds. I oppose them because they're harmful to society.

136 posted on 02/27/2009 10:16:19 AM PST by DouglasKC
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To: Enterprise
Is there such a thing as medicinal alcohol? Medicinal cocaine? Medicinal morphine?

Absolutely! Somebody saved my life with a flask of whiskey at a dam' cold freep a couple of years ago. Dentists used to use cocaine, and may still in poorer parts of the world. My neighbor, disabled in the Gulf War by the weapons of mass destruction that Saddam "didn't have", is on such a high dose of morphine for his pain that the DEA had to approve it.

A piece of trivia that I picked up from a gardening website: the reason there are poppies growing all over the South is that the Confederate government asked people to raise them for the hospitals, and the plants naturalized.

137 posted on 02/27/2009 10:17:06 AM PST by nina0113 (Hugh Akston is my hero.)
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To: absolootezer0
religious nanny-statism? how is that different from any other for of communism?

Isn't this just another way of saying "You're not the boss of me"?

138 posted on 02/27/2009 10:17:14 AM PST by DouglasKC
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To: Dan7878787

American kids have drinking problems because we have no alcohol culture like Europe does. In Europe, wine and lighter alcohol is sometimes had with dinner. Even little kids have a bit of wine for the big holidays and they are taught that it is something to be respected, much like a gun. Here in America, they have to wait until they turn 21 and then what do they do that very night? Get completely smashed!

It’s why our college youth have become notorious binge drinkers.


139 posted on 02/27/2009 10:17:53 AM PST by leonid
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To: Enterprise

For some reason the sarcasm didn’t come through in your comment.

And some strange people come to FR


140 posted on 02/27/2009 10:18:26 AM PST by MetaThought
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