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To: DouglasKC
Blah blah blah. And if you ban abortions there'll be back alley abortions everywhere.

Go back and read post #6 again. Trying to lump abortion in with pot and porn is an apples and oranges argument. Furthermore, it's disingenuous because your forcing conservatives to resort to argue in absolutes. Pot and porn isn't as cut-and-dried as abortion is. Just because we oppose abortion doesn't mean pot and porn should be banned too.

And banning pot is bad because it causes crime. Yes yes, I know. How come nobody ever makes the case that LEGALIZING something makes it more prevalent?

But Douglas, pot is very prevalent and it's already illegal. I mean, what are you going to do? Wouldn't it better if it was regulated with strict laws for abuse or buying for minors, education about its use like the "Just Say No?"

Look at abortion, homosexuality and pornography. When it became unconstitutional to limit these things they flourished.

All three have been in existence since our nation's founding. States were permitting abortion even in the 1800s. There was never a time when abortion was completely banned in this country. Of course I'm not advocating it, I'm just saying that the notion of America always being pure and pristine is false.

279 posted on 02/28/2009 6:17:01 PM PST by Extremely Extreme Extremist (The Libertarian and Constitution Parties should merge into one)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
Go back and read post #6 again. Trying to lump abortion in with pot and porn is an apples and oranges argument. Furthermore, it's disingenuous because your forcing conservatives to resort to argue in absolutes. Pot and porn isn't as cut-and-dried as abortion is. Just because we oppose abortion doesn't mean pot and porn should be banned too.

If you're arguing from a states rights perspective it does. To be consistent abortion, pot and porn should all be states rights issues. Yet the only one defined as an issue of liberty and freedom is pot. I'm just saying attack the fedgovs position on porn and abortion as much as you do pot. Post about how abortion should be a state right. Tell us about how the federal government shouldn't be telling women what do to because it's not their purview.

I'm at least consistent. I think the fedgov should make the decision on all these things and they should decide to ban them because they're harmful to people and dangerous to society. Of course they won't do that. Too many people have drank the kool aid and believe that accepting and tolerating evil is "freedom" when it's just the opposite.

But Douglas, pot is very prevalent and it's already illegal. I mean, what are you going to do? Wouldn't it better if it was regulated with strict laws for abuse or buying for minors, education about its use like the "Just Say No?"

So you concede it's dangerous? If not then why have strict laws for abuse? Why not let minors have it? Why educate against it? And if it's so dangerous why legitimize by legalizing it?

All three have been in existence since our nation's founding. States were permitting abortion even in the 1800s. There was never a time when abortion was completely banned in this country. Of course I'm not advocating it, I'm just saying that the notion of America always being pure and pristine is false.

Things like abortion, porn and pot were held in check by religion and morality. Sure there have always been amoral and immoral people. But the standards of American society have traditionally been higher than their standards. Today though we have to embrace the lowest common denominator or risk being called judgmental, homophobic or jack booted thugs.

281 posted on 02/28/2009 7:28:20 PM PST by DouglasKC
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