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Where's global warming?
Boston Globe ^ | March 8, 2009 | Jeff Jacoby

Posted on 03/07/2009 3:12:54 PM PST by neverdem

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To: Sherman Logan
Tagline noted. These are not my facts, they belong to climate scientists, the REAL ones.

According to them, CO2 levels have been increasing for over 500 years, which predates the industrial age and it's burning of sequestered CO2.

What "climate change/global warming" zealots claim is that Man has the power to change the weather, and on that, I call B*LL$H*T! Man has yet to understand the weather, much less change it....

61 posted on 03/08/2009 8:36:32 AM PDT by dirtbiker (Obama is America's first Affirmative Action president....)
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To: ROCKLOBSTER; palmer
So how much is there, as a percentage?

Crickets chirping as you look it up, afraid to speak the truth...BUMP!

62 posted on 03/08/2009 8:49:53 AM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER (RATs...nothing more than Bald Haired Hippies!)
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To: ROCKLOBSTER
Crickets chirping as you look it up, afraid to speak the truth.

At whatever level they state it is (I'll use 380 ppm), current levels as a percentage is about 0.04%.

As a reference, the atmosphere is about 78% nitrogen, 20% oxygen, 1% argon, and 1% of everything else, including CO2....

63 posted on 03/08/2009 9:04:41 AM PDT by dirtbiker (Obama is America's first Affirmative Action president....)
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To: dirtbiker

Everything else also includes neon, helium, methane, krypton, hydrogen, nitrous oxide, ozone, and ammonia....


64 posted on 03/08/2009 9:07:02 AM PDT by dirtbiker (Obama is America's first Affirmative Action president....)
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To: dirtbiker
DING DING DING! We have a winner.

(although I wanted palmer to admit it)

.034% is only .034% more than ZERO!

Zero, also known as: nothing, zip, zero, nada.

65 posted on 03/08/2009 9:14:13 AM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER (RATs...nothing more than Bald Haired Hippies!)
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To: palmer
It's the second strongest greenhouse gas. Ozone is the third strongest. All the rest are also-rans. The water vapor that does the bulk of the warming would not be possible without CO2.

Ozone is NOT third, it is fourth.

The "greenhouse gases" are (in order and strength):
Water vapor 35-70%,
CO2 9-26% (I guess that depends on whether Algore is speaking that day),
Methane 4-9% (Depends on whether Big Al had a double chili burrito before speaking),
ozone 3-7% (Upper level ozone is produced by the sun)....

66 posted on 03/08/2009 9:18:59 AM PDT by dirtbiker (Obama is America's first Affirmative Action president....)
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To: ROCKLOBSTER
I may not be a "scientist", but I did study chemistry in school.

Unlike a certain divinity school flunkie who's a former VP and global warming activist....

67 posted on 03/08/2009 9:21:30 AM PDT by dirtbiker (Obama is America's first Affirmative Action president....)
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To: ROCKLOBSTER

Well, I must be off. I have to put a timing chain on my car.

I can’t afford $10,000+ for a “new” ride, but a $30.00 timing chain will keep my 200k+ mileage, 1980 Malibu running until the Obamanation in the White House is gone....


68 posted on 03/08/2009 9:24:40 AM PDT by dirtbiker (Obama is America's first Affirmative Action president....)
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To: wolfcreek

It is SO IMPORTANT for conservatives to understand to NEVER DENY global warming. That is a loser argument. Because global warming has happened before....albeit by nature.
The correct argument is “it is not man made”. The best proof is ending of last ice age due to massive global warming long before man had invented on demand fire.

Sorry for shouting but this is critical.


69 posted on 03/08/2009 10:33:28 AM PDT by ajay_kumar (Elections have consequences. Socialist Liberals are in charge, sadly.)
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To: dirtbiker

It’s both. Any increase in CO2 will increase temperature (simple physics). Most increases in temperature will bring out more CO2 from the oceans. The 500-800 lag is based on extremely crude ice core measurements (about one measurement for every few hundred years). I wouldn’t read too much into it.


70 posted on 03/08/2009 10:34:05 AM PDT by palmer (Cooperating with Obama = helping him extend the depression and implement socialism.)
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To: ROCKLOBSTER
Crickets chirping as you look it up, afraid to speak the truth...BUMP!

I've posted it dozens if not hundreds of times.

71 posted on 03/08/2009 10:35:54 AM PDT by palmer (Cooperating with Obama = helping him extend the depression and implement socialism.)
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To: dirtbiker
CO2 9-26% (I guess that depends on whether Algore is speaking that day),

Ranges depend on the spectral overlap. The issue of whether doubling CO2 causes catastrophic warming or not depends on that overlap plus the changes in weather that may occur at higher temperatures. Because of the overlap with H2O, the doubling of CO2 creates about a 0.25C temperature rise, not catastrophic. Factoring in weather changes, there may be a rise in the height of the troposphere or other changes that cause warming. Real world measurements are not conclusive but it is doubtful that there would be enough positive feedback to be considered catastrophic.

72 posted on 03/08/2009 10:44:52 AM PDT by palmer (Cooperating with Obama = helping him extend the depression and implement socialism.)
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To: palmer
The academics is interesting, but the alarmism is both juvenile and fraudulent, even criminal.

There is nothing man can or should do other than be aware. Just like incoming meteors.

73 posted on 03/09/2009 6:42:30 AM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER (RATs...nothing more than Bald Haired Hippies!)
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To: ROCKLOBSTER

true, except we’ll have plenty of time to adjust if necessary (unlike a meteor).


74 posted on 03/09/2009 6:54:09 AM PDT by palmer (Cooperating with Obama = helping him extend the depression and implement socialism.)
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