Posted on 03/13/2009 1:32:40 PM PDT by EternalVigilance
Return it to the states by reversing Roe v. Wade, which overrode all the state laws, OK.
But to say that people have a right to an abortion is another matter entirely. And that’s what he just said.
He is a LOSER.
He was the guest speaker at my brother’s high school graduation. I like listening to him but his oration doesn’t fit the modern sound-bite mentality of most Americans. Many people have such a short attention span they can’t follow an argument from premise to conclusion.
It’s probably why TV programs have gotten shorter as they cram more commercials into a programming hour. They even did away with many TV themes and they run promos during the closing credits. People have to be constantly entertained or they tune out. See the movie Idiocracy for an example of this.
A little factoid.. Before Roe, abortion was legal is most states..
Because he (Alan Keyes) makes sense and is our best advocate for our Constitutional Rights and liberties. That’s why people listen to him.
His Illinois race is really an indictment of the stupidity of most of the voters in that state.
I don’t give a damn what Keyes says here. I care about what Steel says, in the transcript that Keyes produces.
Abortion is not a right, nor could it ever be.
The Tenth Amendment in no way supports a “states’ rights trumps unalienable rights” argument. This isn’t possible, since the stated purpose of the Constitution is “to secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves AND OUR POSTERITY,” and because the Fifth and the Fourteenth Amendments protect all innocent persons from being killed. EVERYWHERE in America.
I don’t think you’re following the debate here.
You mean the same Keyes who like throw stones at other politicians family problems while had some himself??? The same Keyes who called for Reparations??
Easy muffin, I told you that I think abortion is murder. There are at least a couple of issues here. The legal one should be fixed immediately, regardless of the gravity of the larger issue.
As for the larger issue - some states will allow it, and some won’t. For a change, you’ll be able to live in a state that doesn’t condone infanticide. I’d take that much at this point.
It doesn’t mean I’d stop there. My daughter is adopted. You ought not call people ignorant when you don’t know who they are. It’s your attitude that keeps more reasonable people separated on this particular issue.
Even most liberals believe its murder. Most of them I know admit to that position. Some righteous asshole calling them ignorant, however, is liable to stiffen their resolve just to piss you off.
Let the principle and logic of your position carry the message instead. It’s pretty powerful.
Are you going to apply the same illogic to the Right to Keep and Bear Arms? Free speech? Due process? Trial by jury? SLAVERY? The right to peaceably assemble?
Look, you’ve got little argument from me. I am one of Steele’s biggest supporters but he made a gaffe. To be fair, he also corrected it.
Unalienable rights are unalienable everywhere in America. If you don’t think so, whether you will admit it or not, you’re advocating the destruction of our Union and our free republic. It is those principles that are our nation’s entire basis for liberty, and what keeps this country from becoming Yugoslavia.
Keyes may make sense but he is not one of our best advocates. Listening to the man is like listening to crashing pots and pans.
He is responsible for the race he ran in Illinois.
Race is not the issue here. Alan Keyes is a brilliant man. He’s passionate about his beliefs, which makes him that much more appealing, to me and many others, as a politician. I know he’s accused of being arrogant, but it’s sometimes hard to say if it’s his intense passions that are being confused with pride. Regardless, he’s right. And many people don’t want to hear what he has to say.
Moving the decision back to the states where it belongs, consitutionally, would allow the local action groups to fight locally for incremental limitations, such as allowing abortion but insisting on parental notification, etc. Local citizens could travel more easily to the state capital to get involved, local churches and retired grandparents with the time but not the means to travel to DC could get involved, and various other benefits.
Your question makes no sense. The state of the national government is what it is because it is peopled overwhelmingly by folks like Steele; those who have no firm moral basis for their own thinking, much less any action that might secure liberty or truly serve the people.
The problem with your arguments is that the “incrementalists” are personified by people like Steele. They destroy any basis for even arguing against abortion, much less overturning Roe vs. Wade. Wake up.
Your question makes no sense. The state of the national government is what it is because it is peopled overwhelmingly by folks like Steele; those who have no firm moral basis for their own thinking, much less any action that might secure liberty or truly serve the people.
No. I understood what you said perfectly. It’s just that it was nonsensical. Illogical. Not well thought out. Without basis. You get the drift.
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