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Posted on 03/16/2009 4:39:15 AM PDT by wombtotomb

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To: wombtotomb

http://www.modernhistoryproject.org/mhp/EntityDisplay.php?Entity=KofBE

And lets not forget those Knights of Malta

http://www.modernhistoryproject.org/mhp/EntityDisplay.php?Entity=KofMalta


21 posted on 03/16/2009 5:26:12 AM PDT by wolfcreek (There is no 2 party system only arrogant Pols and their handlers)
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To: wolfcreek
Interesting. Seems as though there are several persons on here who are also members of various organizations that may be questionable.

Bildenberg Organization(sp?), Tri lateral Group

22 posted on 03/16/2009 5:28:42 AM PDT by wombtotomb (Since it is above his paygrade, why can't we err on the side of caution about when life begins?)
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To: J40000

:) Ima girl brotha, and I guess I am just stuck in the past!


23 posted on 03/16/2009 5:30:10 AM PDT by wombtotomb (Since it is above his paygrade, why can't we err on the side of caution about when life begins?)
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To: wombtotomb

It’s the Democratic Congress. And it’s Teddy Kennedy. Before he receives it Congress will give him permission.

But it’s no biggie. Eisenhower, Patton, Bradley, MacArthur, and Reagan were all given British knighthoods. So don’t feel this is some new, unprecedented event.


24 posted on 03/16/2009 5:30:46 AM PDT by Cheburashka (Liberalism: a tale told by an idiot, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing.)
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To: wombtotomb

Kennedy’s is only an honorary “title.” He gets no land, no political power, can’t even legally (according to British law) call himself “sir” anything. I don’t see this as a violation, really.


25 posted on 03/16/2009 5:32:16 AM PDT by Mobile Vulgus
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To: wombtotomb

Ted Kennedy’s Knighthood is as illegitimate as Zero’s Presidency and Hillary’s appointment to Secretary of Foggy Bottom. They’re all impostors.


26 posted on 03/16/2009 5:32:20 AM PDT by RoadTest (The heart is deceitful above all things, and desperately wicked: who can know it? - Jer.17:9)
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To: Cheburashka

I sure didn’t think that, I was just under the impression that it should not be done until they were no longer holding office, not prior to them retiring/leaving office. Not sure when the others received these honorary knighthoods, but I think the constitution is clear, honorary or not, that while holding office they should not receive it. Many who got it do deserve the honor, so that is not the dispute.


27 posted on 03/16/2009 5:32:52 AM PDT by wombtotomb (Since it is above his paygrade, why can't we err on the side of caution about when life begins?)
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To: wombtotomb
...without the Consent of the Congress...

At this stage in his life, do you think Congress is going to deny him anything?

28 posted on 03/16/2009 5:33:39 AM PDT by stayathomemom (Cat herder and empty nester)
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To: wombtotomb

Makes you wonder, doesn’t it?


29 posted on 03/16/2009 5:34:14 AM PDT by wolfcreek (There is no 2 party system only arrogant Pols and their handlers)
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To: Mobile Vulgus

The word “title is mentioned in the article 1 section 9 clause. It is copied below. Please note the words “of ANY kind WHATEVER” in specific when referencing the word “title”. This I would take to mean even honorary, while holding office.

And no Person holding any Office of Profit or Trust under them, shall, without the Consent of the Congress, accept of any present, Emolument, Office, or Title, of any kind whatever, from any King, Prince, or foreign State.


30 posted on 03/16/2009 5:37:14 AM PDT by wombtotomb (Since it is above his paygrade, why can't we err on the side of caution about when life begins?)
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To: stayathomemom

That is the saddest part of all. Probably not.


31 posted on 03/16/2009 5:38:33 AM PDT by wombtotomb (Since it is above his paygrade, why can't we err on the side of caution about when life begins?)
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To: wombtotomb

The language is even stronger in the Articles of Confederation but I agree, at this point Congress wouldn’t deny Ted anything.


32 posted on 03/16/2009 5:38:57 AM PDT by John.Galt2012
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To: wolfcreek

Would this be Englands way of subtly subverting the constitution of the US, by offering these things to our elected officials knowing they cannot accept, according to our constitution, but knowing we are unable to refuse due to our relationship with England?

Violating the constitution seems to happen in babysteps, much as subverting thought about abortion,gay marriage, et al did.I know I am wondering more and more.....


33 posted on 03/16/2009 5:42:05 AM PDT by wombtotomb (Since it is above his paygrade, why can't we err on the side of caution about when life begins?)
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To: wombtotomb

The Constitution is an obsolete document and should not be taken seriously any more.


34 posted on 03/16/2009 5:43:08 AM PDT by WayneS (Sarcasm Alert!!! (for the thick-headed))
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To: WayneS

either you forgot your sarc tag, or I’m about to pwn you :)


35 posted on 03/16/2009 5:44:06 AM PDT by wombtotomb (Since it is above his paygrade, why can't we err on the side of caution about when life begins?)
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To: WayneS

I missed your tagline LOL


36 posted on 03/16/2009 5:44:49 AM PDT by wombtotomb (Since it is above his paygrade, why can't we err on the side of caution about when life begins?)
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To: GregB

... must HAVE lowered the standards.


37 posted on 03/16/2009 5:45:39 AM PDT by donmeaker (You may not be interested in War but War is interested in you.)
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To: J40000

I have an employee ; he and I were discussing what will happen to society when the government can not pay their debts, ie social secutrity, welfare etc.... I propose their will be great civil unrest when the lazy masses no longer get free money and food; the next logical step will be martial law.

My employee said “this is America, the cosntitution protects us from that” naive young man, our “leaders” have no use for that document.


38 posted on 03/16/2009 5:45:53 AM PDT by Billg64 (LOL ROFL Senator Mccain for what????)
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To: wombtotomb
"I heard that recently Ted Kennedy was Knighted by the Queen of England. In article 1 section 9 of the Constitution, there is a section that seems to forbid this."

Honorary Knighthoods are akin to being given the key to a city. Or like when the Boy Scouts will give someone an Honorary Membership.

It just means they think you are a really nifty Dude or dudette, and you can go into the club house but you don't have any other privileges.

39 posted on 03/16/2009 5:47:12 AM PDT by Mad Dawgg ("`Eddies,' said Ford, `in the space-time continuum.' `Ah,' nodded Arthur, `is he? Is he?'")
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To: wombtotomb

Yet George Washington accepted gifts from foreign ambassadors, in the name of the people of the United States, as have all successors.


40 posted on 03/16/2009 5:47:28 AM PDT by donmeaker (You may not be interested in War but War is interested in you.)
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