Where Have All the Neocons Gone? (who cares---just get 'em out of OUR party)

The American Conservative ^ | January 12, 2009 | Jacob Heilbrunn

[widdle_wabbit]

I asked for a link.

The premise of your article is confusing and you make it more so, might you not concede that you might be the better revising your premise?

I asked for a link.

[widdle_wabbit]

What were they called when they were in the democrat party?

neodems?

[widdle_wabbit]

You, liz, are the only person on the planet using the trashy sophmoronic term pukeneo. And you do so like a garbage worker throwing every piece of misceleneous trash into the same receptacle. Pukeneo?

William Kristol ; “The day after McCain won in New Hampshire, Kristol wrote an obituary in the Washington Post: “Leaderless, rudderless and issueless, the conservative movement ... is finished.”

Any reasonable person would deduce that the statement was made in despair and dissapointment.

I know of not one person here at FreeRepublic who was satisfied. Had I posted that day I might have said the same thing. I think you have got your panties in a bunch over nothing, over a quote made famous by Eric Alterman, aka conehead.

[fortunecookie]

Our prosperity is from the private sector, not the public sector

But some Gordon Gekko Greed is Good types thought why should the public sector have all the fun? When Madoff was head of the NASD, we all followed the rules he flagrantly broke (consider he made not one trade, not one, in the one group). It was too easy. Now it's find the money (which won't be found).

Firmbss, love the Haiku. It was the best 3 card Monty game in town. Poof! Like hiding a toy from a baby, where'd it go?

[widdle_wabbit]

“Will the movement, in fact, morph back into what it was at its inception in the late 1960s when it belonged firmly to the Democratic Party—moderate on domestic issues and mildly hawkish on foreign policy?”

What were they called when they were in the democratic party? Neodems?

Surely you can spare the time to give us the historical grouping before they left and became famous.

[widdle_wabbit]

He did not “write it” in the Washington Post. No wonder your article is so difficult to figure out, your sources are all mixed up pukeneo this Wahington Post that, trotskyite what?

The word does not mean what you say it means.

[Just mythoughts]

This has been an interesting thread. What Kristol and lord McCain did to Rummy is something I will never forgive. And whatever handle they call themselves by does not means beans to me. They are what they are, punks, and I have no doubt they will work just marvelously with the new president.

[Liz]

............interesting thread...............

I love these threads, too.

Nice to see who comes out of the woodwork---who is being tasked to conduct surveillance (to protect the neo operation).

Wonder how much they get paid to put down the peons' rebellion?

Mmmmmmm.........the Neo Fellaters Relay Teams are a riot. They are stupefyingly convinced of their own superiority.

NO ONE is EVER allowed to say a discouraging word about these "perfect specimens."

Least of all the Republican so/cons they despise....who might muck up their (cough) "plans."

Expect a lot more sequels to this thread (grin).

[Liz]

Come on, Liz. Get with the program! Richard Perle just told the world last month at the Nixon Center: "There is no such thing as a neoconservative foreign policy.....that dominated the Bush administration........"....that some say is responsibile for the deplorable state of the world.....

Damn, I gotta write that down...

Shucks.......sittin' chere in may double-wide wit my car up on bricks longside mah lean-to......I jest keep furgettin'....

Lordy, lordy, lordy.

If'n I may quote you........"we shouldn't ever EVER ever connect Dickie Perle's foreign policy positions to his self-interest in Kazakhstan oil deals.......... or consider it anything more than the 'selfless altruism' of the United States."

Amen.

[jla]

Expect a lot more sequels to this thread (grin).

It would be apropos to include links to this pair of insightful articles from Thomas Sowell -

The Republican Civil War

Not One Of Us

SarahPAC

[Chunga]

You're full of stuff I can't mention here. This article is stuff I can't mention here, and your additional comments and parenthetical title addendum are stuff I can't mention here.

Your language is stuff I can't mention here, and your opinions are more disgusting than stuff I can't mention here. Get a life, you piece of stuff I can't mention here.

[Designer]

"Thanks again to both of you, and others, for clarifying the term, "neocon.""

You're very welcome!

It is a very important point to understand who they are and what is their agenda.

We can't win if we are fighting the wrong enemy.

It is funny that you mentioned your conversion at the time of Jimmy Carter. That was about when I started paying attention to what politicians were saying. I remember thinking; Jimmy Carter is promising everybody something, so he can't possibly be telling the truth, because it is utterly impossible for him to make good on all those promises.

BTW: I have been an ardent student of politics for about 17 years now. I read lots and have learned lots.

[Designer]

"I’m not so sure if these people even know what it means."

I think you're right. The left has made lots of hay by co-opting the language, and by using certain terms and phrases they hear, and by changing the meaning or context, they can use it to their advantage.

Another important point to remember is that the MSM lives in a "sound-bite" world. They are happy to repeat almost anything that puts conservatives in a bad light, including, but not limited to bastardizing the language.

That is reason enough to pay attention to what is being done to our language.

[Designer]

"What were they called when they were in the democrat party?"

They were called war hawks, and their agenda then, as now, was to help bring about a new world order with a global goverment.

Think of them as United Nations cheerleaders.

[Designer]

"Surely you can spare the time.."

Please read today's posts, as I was not keeping up with this thread overnight.

[Designer]

"Expect a lot more sequels to this thread (grin)."

Please ping me when you post another installment?

[Designer]

"You're full of stuff I can't mention here."

I suppose you think Liz has simply made it all up.

Good thing you can't actually read anything here, or then you really would become offended.

[Condor51]

Liz, don't do it.
You're arguing with a mental midget. That's like wrestling with a pig.

You get down on the ground, roll around in muck getting filth all over you - and the pig just enjoins it.

No offense to pigs ;-)

[Liz]

The left has made hay by co-opting the language, using certain terms and phrases, changing the meaning or context, that they use to their advantage. Another important point....the MSM lives in a "sound-bite" world. They are happy to repeat almost anything that puts conservatives in a bad light, including, but not limited to bastardizing the language. That is reason enough to pay attention to what is being done to our language.

N-i-c-e deconstruction-----brilliant insights.

So what are you waiting for? Go ahead and blush (grin).

[Liz]

I sit here in the cheap seats doing my level best to educate my fellow citizens. The question neocons face is simple: Should they continue to move right, serving as the advance guard of an embattled GOP? Or should neoconservatism become true to itself by returning to the center? Will the movement, in fact, morph back into what it was at its inception in the late 1960s when it belonged firmly to the Democratic Party—moderate on domestic issues and mildly hawkish on foreign policy?

Socratic method--- nice going.