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'From my cold dead hands' and gun-owner apathy
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| March 15th, 2009
| John Pierce
Posted on 03/16/2009 9:15:46 AM PDT by JohnPierce
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This is an excerpt from my latest column. What do you think? In my opinion, apathy is one of our greatest weakness against government intrusion into all aspects of our lives!
To: JohnPierce
I rarely meet FReepers working on political campaigns.
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posted on
03/16/2009 9:19:56 AM PDT
by
sionnsar
(Iran Azadi | 5yst3m 0wn3d - it's N0t Y0ur5 (SONY) | "Tax the rich" fails if the rich won't play)
To: JohnPierce
What we suffer from is a lack of focus due to a number of causes.
To get people’s interest we need to make the participation fun and or/meaningful in some manner. Like gun rally! free beer and hot dogs, plus free rifle to one lucky attendee!
Otherwise it is really difficult to get lots of people to participate. It has to be a “happening” with good music perhaps, or attractive ladies, get the point. People are really busy, and overwhelmed in this world.
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posted on
03/16/2009 9:21:13 AM PDT
by
2ndClassCitizen
(NAACP=Nubians Against All Caucasian People)
To: JohnPierce
There's apathy, and there's another sort of problem that happens when you withhold firing until they overrun your position.
Depends on what you want to talk about ~ the "from my cold dead hands" comments tend to derive from references to not letting positions be overrun.
We are, of course, talking about FIREARMS and other weapons, not just killing babies in their mother's wombs.
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posted on
03/16/2009 9:21:21 AM PDT
by
muawiyah
To: JohnPierce
If your freedom means so little to you that you are not willing to fight for it politically...
Fight them politically? That's already done.
Those who would today overthrow our Constitution or any part thereof declare themselves to be enemies, no matter whether foreign or domestic. To fight them politically is to grant them legitimacy.
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posted on
03/16/2009 9:22:56 AM PDT
by
LearsFool
("Thou shouldst not have been old, till thou hadst been wise.")
To: JohnPierce
For my part, and I think I’m not the only one, it’s not so much apathy as not knowing what can be done. What are the local organizations that you’re talking about? How do you find out about them? What are they doing to get the word out of how people can help? How are they empowering people so they know that they can make a difference?
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posted on
03/16/2009 9:25:54 AM PDT
by
Roos_Girl
(This country is being run like it's a love-in)
To: JohnPierce
When people start feeling that Government is back in their control, they will stop with deviance talk. As it stands now, they have no control and Congress is not responding to the people the way the people want. They have no other choice but to fight back in the only way they know. When crooked politicians run this country, with no way of getting rid of them, except waiting two years for another election, they get mad.
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posted on
03/16/2009 9:26:36 AM PDT
by
RC2
(http://www.worldviewradio.com/play.php?EpisodeID=10958)
To: JohnPierce
I hear this type of comment also and have to wonder how these folks think that millions will stand up for violent revolution when we can’t even get a handful to participate in Constitutionally protected civil disobedience.
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posted on
03/16/2009 9:27:12 AM PDT
by
Big_Harry
( Thank God I am an "Infidel"!)
To: JohnPierce
Keep in mind that many gun owners and gun rights advocates are not near as articulate as you. Maybe “Molon Labe” is the best way they can communicate their solidarity with others without being philosophical about it. If the SHTF, they will be with us.
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posted on
03/16/2009 9:29:00 AM PDT
by
Niteranger68
(Barter Now! (Starve our socialist government))
To: JohnPierce
Get involved in Politics?
I don't hang with crackheads, I don't dine with thieves, I don't cruise for prostitutes. Why ever should I consort with something that is worse than all three?
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posted on
03/16/2009 9:32:15 AM PDT
by
jonascord
(Hey, we have the Constitution. What's to worry about?)
To: JohnPierce
"It's too late to work within the system and too early to shoot the bastards." Claire Wolfe
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posted on
03/16/2009 9:34:56 AM PDT
by
mosaicwolf
(Strength and Honor)
To: Niteranger68
I don't think it's apathy. I think it's more of us work for a living. We are just as enthusiastic for our cause, but when the liberals want to protest, thousands come out of the woodwork because they aren't doing anything else that day but watching TV and hanging out.
You know, go protest something, maybe get a free hot dog.
I'd like to grab my pitchfork and head to Washington, but I have a job that controls about 12-14 hours of my day.
Only when civil law breaks down and there are no jobs, or lifestyle to maintain, will we rally and let everyone know just how many believeing conservatives there really are
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posted on
03/16/2009 9:38:53 AM PDT
by
lynn4303
To: mosaicwolf; JohnPierce
That about sums it up. When the SHTF politicians from both parties will rue the day...
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posted on
03/16/2009 9:40:17 AM PDT
by
DTogo
(Time to bring back the Sons of Liberty.)
To: jonascord
"I don't hang with crackheads, I don't dine with thieves, I don't cruise for prostitutes. Why ever should I consort with something that is worse than all three?"Outstanding Jonascord! I'll drink to that later today.
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posted on
03/16/2009 9:40:42 AM PDT
by
VR-21
To: jonascord; JohnPierce; All
Get involved in Politics? I don't hang with crackheads, I don't dine with thieves, I don't cruise for prostitutes. Why ever should I consort with something that is worse than all three?Because politicians can and WILL disarm us all.
They have already claimed large parts of our income in a variety of taxes.
They indoctrinate and condition legions of children to be docile and submissive gorvment subjects.
They open our borders to the underclass of the world seeking potential votes.
All of this thanks to Politics.
Wasn't it John Adams that said:
I must study politics and war that my sons may have liberty to study mathematics and philosophy. My sons ought to study mathematics and philosophy, geography, natural history, naval architecture, navigation, commerce and agriculture in order to give their children a right to study painting, poetry, music, architecture, statuary, tapestry, and porcelain.
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posted on
03/16/2009 9:41:26 AM PDT
by
AreaMan
To: sionnsar
I work every election ... but naturally, we wouldn’t meet ;-).
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posted on
03/16/2009 9:42:55 AM PDT
by
Tax-chick
("Even for a thin-skinned solipsistic narcissist, Obama seems a frightful po-faced pill." ~Mark Steyn)
To: JohnPierce
I disagree with the excerpt. I haven’t read anymore than that. “From my cold dead fingers” isn’t a simple cliche’, it’s a simple truth with a complicated underlying message; that being, “this is the line in the sand, if you cross it, these are the consequences”. I think it’s good and important that everyone involved in this struggle understands exactly where that line is and what the potential consequences are for crossing it. It avoids dangerous confusion.
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posted on
03/16/2009 9:45:17 AM PDT
by
RC one
To: Roos_Girl
not knowing what can be doneYou just have to start: Is there a local elected official - city council, county judge, state rep. - you like? Call his or her campaign and volunteer. Is there one you really hate? Call his *opponent's* campaign and volunteer.
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posted on
03/16/2009 9:46:25 AM PDT
by
Tax-chick
("Even for a thin-skinned solipsistic narcissist, Obama seems a frightful po-faced pill." ~Mark Steyn)
To: AreaMan
It's my considered, and deeply depressing opinion that we have passed the point where anyone can locate an "honest" politician.
I keep hearing how, in some magical fashion, if enough honest men would just get involved, we could have "change".
From the city commissioner who feeds contracts to his brother in law, feeding at the trough, with the protection of the local District Attorney, behind a blue wall of skin headed, bloused booted thugs, all the way to the White House...
You're just drinking a different flavor of Kool-aide, if you believe we can somehow "vote" our way out of this..
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posted on
03/16/2009 9:53:38 AM PDT
by
jonascord
(Hey, we have the Constitution. What's to worry about?)
To: Tax-chick
From the article
I was talking to a small group about the benefits of being active in state level organizations This is what I was talking about when I questioned what organizations? How do we find out about them? It doesn't seem the author is talking about volunteering to help local reps.
I would assume anyone knows that the politicians would like volunteers. It appears he's not discussing that.
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posted on
03/16/2009 9:57:10 AM PDT
by
Roos_Girl
(This country is being run like it's a love-in)
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