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Obama sending ATF agents
Sierra Vista Herald ^ | March 18, 2009 | Eileen Sullivan & Devlin Barrett

Posted on 03/18/2009 7:36:29 AM PDT by HiJinx

WASHINGTON — The Obama administration plans to send reinforcements to the Southwest border to help contain the rampant violence of the Mexican drug cartel wars.

Thirty-seven agents from the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms are being deployed to the region. An official familiar with the plan said the Immigration and Customs Enforcement Agency is considering reassignment of at least 90 officers to the border.

The official requested anonymity because the plan has not yet been announced.

(Excerpt) Read more at svherald.com ...


TOPICS: Front Page News; Government; US: Arizona; US: California; US: New Mexico; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: aliens; asylum; banglist; bho44; mexico; refugees; warnextdoor
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To: mad_as_he$$

You obviously expect one hell of a budget for ammo!


41 posted on 03/18/2009 7:54:30 AM PDT by Redleg Duke ("Sarah Palin...Unleashing the Fury of the Castrated Left!")
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To: HiJinx
Look closely at their orders ... they are going down there to stand and face North to stop guns from getting to Mexico, NOT to keep illegals from coming into the US of A.
42 posted on 03/18/2009 7:54:48 AM PDT by NonValueAdded (May God save America from its government; this is no time for Obamateurs. Emmanuel = Haldeman?)
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To: Glenn

I’m talking about a real fence/wall like the Israeli one. Concrete, barbed wire, watch towers, guards.


43 posted on 03/18/2009 7:55:03 AM PDT by SolidWood (Palin: "In Alaska we eat therefore we hunt.")
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To: cripplecreek
"I think the point is that the “woe is me” attitude does nothing but discourages good people from standing tall and demanding that something be done."

Thank you for getting my point across. I would have been here for days trying to do what you did in a sec!

44 posted on 03/18/2009 7:57:32 AM PDT by NoGrayZone (Who Is John Galt?)
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To: HiJinx

Ok boys and girls, lets get out our pencils. The US Mexican border is 2000 miles long. If the Pres_ent sends 37 ATF to the border, how many miles would each man have to patrol 24/7?


45 posted on 03/18/2009 7:57:53 AM PDT by bgill
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To: Danae

Maybe the Zeta’s are hiding behind women and children. F- Troop to the rescue!


46 posted on 03/18/2009 7:59:10 AM PDT by Dead Corpse (Te odeo, interfice te cochleare)
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To: SolidWood

All vets of the Elian Gonzalez, Ruby Ridge, and Waco happenings in the past.


47 posted on 03/18/2009 7:59:12 AM PDT by Michigan Bowhunter (Democrat socialist liberal scumbags.....how did we let this happen!)
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To: 70th Division

Maybe the ATF is there to set up another Waco situation.

Let’s see, who can be the perpetrators in a possible gun-running scheme from the US into Mexico? Not that that is a significant source of the weaponry being used in places like Juarez, or anywhere in Mexico, for that matter. Daily shipments of full automatic and military grade ordnance are received from China, Venezuela and North Korea.

But say that there is a religious colony in the near location to El Paso, and they also happen to have a small stockpile of (legally purchased) sidearms. They will be surrounded and stormed as being the “source” of the illegal weaponry being used in Mexico. And how were they getting them into Mexico? Why, a tunnel under the Rio Grande, of course, a highly engineered avenue of exchange of illegal drugs for illegal weapons.

Doesn’t matter that the religious colony never so much as exchanged business cards with the Mexican drug cartels, the fact remains that they COULD have, and the attack on the compound will be launched.

Waco all over again.

No persecution in this country. Nosiree, Bob


48 posted on 03/18/2009 7:59:22 AM PDT by alloysteel (Obama was lying, your rights are dying)
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To: silverleaf; Danae

Their job will be to harass and shut down legal FFL gun shops in the area.


49 posted on 03/18/2009 7:59:24 AM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Socialism is the belief that most people are better off if everyone was equally poor and miserable.)
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To: listenhillary
I have no doubt about that. Our “side” wants him as well. Once we allow “them” to take him, I don't think there's any going back.

The line has been drawn and it's time for people to decide which side they stand.

50 posted on 03/18/2009 8:00:33 AM PDT by NoGrayZone (Who Is John Galt?)
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To: NonValueAdded; Pistolshot
NVAdded,
You and Pistolshot are the only ones to get it so far. ATF is coming down here to disarm Texans and Americans. Thanks a lot to everyone that keeps demanding a wall and a DMZ on Texas and US land. I want the DMZ to be in Mexico.

Lon Tomohisa Horiuchi will be brought down to kill some more American women and children. The real concern is that Texans might get ahold of some of the Paki built automatic weaponry that is flooding into Mexico.

51 posted on 03/18/2009 8:02:59 AM PDT by AH_LiveRight
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To: HiJinx
Here we go...two week media blitz creates a crisis,

Manufactured Crises -- Causes visible effects on individuals ignorant about the source of such manipulation.

"The public might instinctively feel that something is wrong, but they cannot explain it in a rational way." (social strain, apathy, distress)-- Silent Weapons for a Quiet War

The aim is to turn people into predictable variables in a closed programming simplicity. It is a methodical step-by-step approach where people are encouraged to play their roles in calculation of the next step.

52 posted on 03/18/2009 8:03:51 AM PDT by concerned about politics ("Get thee behind me, Liberal")
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To: HiJinx

Wow, 37 ATF agents? Problem solved!


53 posted on 03/18/2009 8:03:52 AM PDT by TenthAmendmentChampion (Be prepared for tough times. FReepmail me to learn about our survival thread!)
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To: alloysteel

I have no doubt that some weapons in Mexico come from here but it’s piecemeal. Wealthy drug lords aren’t going to waste time with handfulls of weapons when they can get them off container ships through mexican ports that they control.


54 posted on 03/18/2009 8:04:34 AM PDT by cripplecreek (The poor bastards have us surrounded.)
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To: Redleg Duke
.22 lr's are CHEAP.

Shoot all you want, we'll make more.

55 posted on 03/18/2009 8:05:08 AM PDT by mountn man (The pleasure you get from life, is equal to the attitude you put into it.)
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To: AH_LiveRight

I thought the “story” was that our lax gun laws were causing the violence across the border? At least that is what I heard from the boob tube.


56 posted on 03/18/2009 8:05:13 AM PDT by listenhillary (Rahm Emmanuel slip - A crisis is a terrible thing to waste.)
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To: Danae

Because they don’t intend to arrest any Mexicans. The ATF is going down there to try to catch Americans breaking some gun law or another. Watch and see.


57 posted on 03/18/2009 8:05:22 AM PDT by savedbygrace (You are only leading if someone follows. Otherwise, you just wandered off... [Smokin' Joe])
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To: Danae

and notice how many he is sending. 37. That will cover 100 yards or so of the border. If he was serious he would send the military, and a large number of them.


58 posted on 03/18/2009 8:06:49 AM PDT by Mom MD (Jesus is the Light of the world!)
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To: Glenn
I saw the fence on TV. Especially all the patches to the fence where they were opened up by illegals. They are defenseless. A waste of money, as I see it.

A fence is worthless unless actively defended. The purpose of the fence is to not give violators an excuse that they didn't know they should not cross, and to slow them down long enough to allow your people to do bad things to violators that will discourage them from trying to violate the fence again.

59 posted on 03/18/2009 8:07:20 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money -- Thatcher)
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To: AH_LiveRight
Thousands of armed Texans. 37 F-Troop.

I don't see that ending well...

60 posted on 03/18/2009 8:07:24 AM PDT by Dead Corpse (Te odeo, interfice te cochleare)
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