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To: Non-Sequitur
Nice try but Virgina / Tennessee / North Carolina & Arkansas seceded only AFTER & the original states seceded & after hostilities started because they saw North's response as un-constitutional & the Morill Tariff was what spurred the Southern Nationalist movement - without which the CSA wold never have gotten off the ground as the average impoverished Southron would never have defended their country if all that was at stake was slavery especially considering that most Southerners did not own slaves [ only 6 % of the Southern population did as most Southerners were poor ] & that a lot of White Southerners were only a few generations away from being slaves themselves as the first slaves in North America were White. The election of Lincoln was hardy a threat to the slave owners as he had promised not to interfere with slavery having no intention of even doing so. Notice that he passed the so called Emancipation Proclamation only as a war measure late in the game & it only applied to areas he had no control over while he allowed slavery to continue within his own jurisdiction in the North. Lincoln was the far left tyrant of his day who was the precursor to Hitler / Stalin / Mao & Pol Pot.
88 posted on 03/22/2009 5:14:57 AM PDT by Republic_of_Secession.
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To: Republic_of_Secession.
Let me begin by pointing out that punctuation is your friend.

Morill Tariff was what spurred the Southern Nationalist movement

The Morill Tariff first was introduced in the spring of 1860, 8 months before Lincoln's election. Why didn't the Southern states secede then?

- without which the CSA wold never have gotten off the ground as the average impoverished Southron would never have defended their country if all that was at stake was slavery especially considering that most Southerners did not own slaves [ only 6 % of the Southern population did as most Southerners were poor ]

It's true only about 6% of all Southerners owned slaves. When I was growing up the family car was in my father's name so one could say that only 20% of the family owned a car. But we all derived benefits from his car ownership. Likewise with slavery. Those slave owners, overwhelmingly, had families. Wives and children who took benefit from the slaves. If you look at the 1860 census data and compare slave owners with the number of families you would find that in some states the percentage of slave-holding families approached 50%. In the original rebelling states close to 40% of all families owned slaves. Many of those who did not took economic benefit from those who did - through doing business with them. So while it is easy for someone like you to question why the South would go to war to defend an institution that only 6% of the population participated in, when you look at the actual statistics it's easier to see why they would go to war to defend an institution that almost half their population directly benefited from.

The election of Lincoln was hardy a threat to the slave owners as he had promised not to interfere with slavery having no intention of even doing so.

Lincoln promised not to interfere with slavery where it currently existed. He was completely opposed to its expansion into the territories, and would have taken all steps possible to ban it. That's what the South found so upsetting.

Notice that he passed the so called Emancipation Proclamation only as a war measure late in the game & it only applied to areas he had no control over while he allowed slavery to continue within his own jurisdiction in the North.

As President of the United States, Lincoln had authority over the whole country - those areas in rebellion as well as those which were not.

Lincoln was the far left tyrant of his day who was the precursor to Hitler / Stalin / Mao & Pol Pot.

Yeah, whatever.

92 posted on 03/22/2009 6:58:05 AM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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