If you open carry - Wisconsin laws you must know

Wisconsin Gun Rights Examiner ^ | 23 March, 2009 | Gene German

[marktwain]

I believe that "no guns within 1000 feet of a school" is federal law, not state law. The law was struck down as unconstitutional in 1995 in U.S. v Lopez, then the Clinton administration managed to extort Congress into repassing it, slightly modified (it exempted CCW holders). I do not know of any prosecutions under the new anti gun school zone law, so there have not been any supreme court cases on it. Still, people who open carry need to know that they might be the test case for the federal anti-gun school zone law.

[Puppage]

If you open carry - Wisconsin laws you must know

No matter HOW you carry, you had better know the laws. Period.

[Vaquero]

concealed carry is better....starts less fights is less intimidating/threatening...you don’t really know if the other guy is armed....ergo my TAGLINE.

Yes find out all the rules but remember to protect yourself if the need occurs....

...in the final analysis, its better to be tried by 12, then carried out by 6.

[wmileo]

There are so many rules, it hardly seems worth it. I live in new Jersey. We have school property everywhere. It is impossible to drive or walk any distance without being within 1000 feet of school property.

[Senator_Blutarski]

"no guns within 1000 feet of a school"

Does that mean if you drop your kid off at school on your way to go duck hunting you have broken a federal law?

[Vaquero]

even worse, what if your house borders school property.

[marktwain]

“concealed carry is better....”

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There are advantages to both open carry and concealed carry.

Perhaps the greatest advantage of open carry in Wisconsin is that it is legal.

There is no legal concealed carry in Wisconsin for citizens that are not officers of the state.

[Vaquero]

Perhaps the greatest advantage of open carry in Wisconsin is that it is legal.

good advantage.

though I would push for CCW shall issue. especially in crowded areas where the local cops might not be happy with Wyatt sauntering down the street with his hogleg strapped low on his leg.

If they cant see it, it causes less problems, generally

[reaganaut1]

I don’t think open carry is a good idea in public areas, because people carrying firearms in plain sight can easily intimidate other people. If I see a beggar asking for money, I can walk by. But what if he has a gun? He does not need to explicitly threaten me.

I don’t see a problem with open carry on private property. If some guy likes to sit on his porch with a gun, that’s his business.

[marktwain]

“though I would push for CCW shall issue”

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It has been passed twice by the State legislature by 2/3 majorities. Both times it has been vetoed by Governor Doyle and he has been successful in twisting arms to get democrats who voted for the bill to change their votes at the last minute to uphold his veto.

One of them said that maintaining party loyalty was more important than the principles involved in the law.

[marktwain]

“I don’t think open carry is a good idea in public areas, because people carrying firearms in plain sight can easily intimidate other people. If I see a beggar asking for money, I can walk by. But what if he has a gun? He does not need to explicitly threaten me.”

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We have always had open carry in Arizona, and as far as I know, your scenario has never happened. I open carry quite a bit, and have not had problems.

Open carry is an open declaration of your rights as a free citizen. It is a political speech issue as much as a 2nd Amendment issue.

[marktwain]

“Does that mean if you drop your kid off at school on your way to go duck hunting you have broken a federal law?”

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It might. Is your shotgun loaded? Is it in a locked container?

[marktwain]

“There are so many rules, it hardly seems worth it. I live in new Jersey. We have school property everywhere. It is impossible to drive or walk any distance without being within 1000 feet of school property.”

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Exactly. I believe that is the purpose of the law, to make it impossible to carry a gun legally. I believe the law would be ruled unconstitutional if it were to be challenged again, but I have not heard of a prosecution. I think they are waiting for a change in the makeup of the Supreme Court.

[Vaquero]

at least you can carry.

we have one of the most stringent carry laws in the country here in NY.

I can carry with my permit(you cannot own a handgun in NYS without a permit), but the license is not Shall Issue, it is at the whims of a local police department or judge and the list of regulations, once you get the permit are draconian. My permit is also NOT good in NYC (you can drive through NYC with your handguns locked in the trunk)...that is a given in this state, unless your a celebrity...pretty elitist.

Here is a kicker, I open carry while hunting...but I am not sure if it is legal. There is nothing in the rules that say I can carry open legally. I can carry while hunting, so where do I put that big old .44 Magnum. It probably is legal to carry open while hunting, I see people do it all the time, but I cant find it in any of the regulations....

good luck.

[rellimpank]

—bflr—

[USS Alaska]

I'm from PA and have a CC permit but a few years ago my wife, daughter, grandson and I went into NYC and I had my 38 snubby tucked in my back holster.

When I visit DC, I go armed.

I'd never go into those sewers unarmed and I'll take my chances with the law if I ever have to use my weapon.

[Vaquero]

usually I only drive THROUGH, NYC to go to my hunting camp upstate and I carry through the city, which is only 10 or 15 minutes and I take the chance.

the only time I stop there is to go to Yankee Stadium in the Bronx, and they WAND you down going in.

but your right...better to be tried by 12 then to be carried out by 6.

[Verbosus]

I’ve wondered about the 1000 foot law myself.
What if you have a school within 1000 of where you live
that you must drive by to get home?

I live just outside of 1000 foot myself - so I can get
home from the opposite direction.

[Gilbo_3]

twas my understanding that the 'school rules' were all state/local based...

I believe in Ky that it is fully 'legal' to drop off kiddies at school and even go so far as 'routine' steps into the bldg [ie walkin them to an assigned area] on a state condoned ccw...

but I wouldnt wanna be the test case...

[JimRed]

...but I cant find it in any of the regulations...

That which is not forbidden is mandatory; that which is not manditory is forbidden.