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To: RichInOC
multiple shots fired I read???

I'd like to no how many??? should the cops have not slowly escalated this abit more.

bean bags, tasers, ok, non lethal , them move up to multiple shots? not like he had a hostage at knife point here.

I would think that after the bean bags and taser failed (and not knowing why they did not all charge him at once, clubs swing) why did they not try to place one shot in the leg? ok, it dont bring him down, then try one more at the leg. You would always have the option to fire more, if the man with two shot legs still tries to run for it.

this looks to me if there was a large number of shots fired it could have been a choice by the cops to become executioners rather than defenders of the public (and the man was a member of the public, regardless of his mental condition or drugs if any)

There should have been one shot to the leg as the next step. it was not like this was a fleeing killer or anything, just one guy who was having a bad day, he should not be executed for that. that's what a large number of multiple shots would mean. untrained or not brave cops, not knowing how to control their fire? need more details until I call the cops justifed. If they were trying to hit him to kill him, they should be charged with murder in some cases

29 posted on 03/30/2009 10:21:53 AM PDT by dhm914
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To: dhm914
I would think that after the bean bags and taser failed (and not knowing why they did not all charge him at once, clubs swing) why did they not try to place one shot in the leg? ok, it dont bring him down, then try one more at the leg. You would always have the option to fire more, if the man with two shot legs still tries to run for it.

Oh, jeez...

30 posted on 03/30/2009 10:26:03 AM PDT by Trailerpark Badass (Happiness is a choice!)
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To: dhm914

What’s on TV today?


31 posted on 03/30/2009 10:29:23 AM PDT by <1/1,000,000th%
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To: dhm914
Sorry, but you are wrong about the shot to the leg. That is not the way to do it, you either shoot to kill or you don't shoot. Cops are taught that way and it is the correct way. Your way would get many cops killed needlessly. However, I see many things wrong with this story. One: The guy was running, uphill, where was their motorized transportation? Didn't have a car they could use to cut him off? He didn't seem to be attacking anyone simply running and waving a knife. Doesn't sound like normal behavior but hardly a killing offense, no more so than if I was running while carrying openly.

Merely having a knife in your posession isn't a crime, or shouldn't be anyway. Running is also no crime. There were many avenues open to these cops that they didn't take, one I already mentioned, the second would be too wait until he got closer, if he was charging, and all of them use their night sticks on him, disarming him first.

He was killed with no violent act committed by him and I always have a problem with that. Had he been armed with a gun and pointed it at the cops, fine, but pointing a knife doesn't have quite the danger aspect of pointing a gun.

Until I here more of this story, if ever, I will say these cops were not justified in shooting a man armed with a knife in this situation, unlike the story of the guy killing his sisters when killing him saved the life of one of the sisters.

38 posted on 03/30/2009 10:59:04 AM PDT by calex59
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To: dhm914

Guns are lethal force. If you shoot someone, you shoot to kill. That’s it.

You don’t shoot people in the leg. Even a shot to the leg has a very high chance of causing a fatal wound. Nick the femoral artery and the guy will bleed out very quickly.


44 posted on 03/30/2009 11:11:25 AM PDT by MediaMole
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To: dhm914
You do not shoot at the legs because you might miss and kill someone, and you would be screaming the loudest here that how the officer should be charged and convicted if he had. I can make that assumption from your post.

This is not Hollywood. You shoot center mass to stop the threat. If center mass does not work, you then take a head shot. Anyone with any firearms experience knows that.

45 posted on 03/30/2009 11:11:26 AM PDT by utahson
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