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McCain's Tough Talk Express [Angry Juan Returns, Mad at Hispanics for Not Supporting Him]
The National Journal ^ | 2009-04-04

Posted on 04/03/2009 6:38:57 AM PDT by rabscuttle385

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To: sickoflibs
How about cutting missile defense after NK thumbs it’s nose at US and Obama with missile launch? Obama gives hawkish speech so idiots back here think he is doing something, but his real response it to cut our defenses. Where is McCain? Where is Palin? (who is in striking distance)

McCain made a statement saying he supported Gates plan (which includes cutting missile defense). Having McCain as the ranking member on the SASC is downright scary.

McCain Statement on Gates' Budget Cuts
His buddy Lieberman even got this one right.
Lieberman-Obama honeymoon stops at missile defense
Palin also issued a press release (and got it right):
Palin Stresses Need for Missile Defense (More)


141 posted on 04/07/2009 12:46:26 PM PDT by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: SoConPubbie

Facts happen! lol


142 posted on 04/07/2009 12:49:59 PM PDT by TigersEye (Cloward-Piven Strategy)
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To: sickoflibs

http://www.audiosparx.com/sa/archive/Cartoon-Effects/Laughter/Wah-wah-wah-wah/24064


143 posted on 04/07/2009 12:56:15 PM PDT by Impy (RED=COMMUNIST, NOT REPUBLICAN)
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To: sickoflibs; MNSlim
... at some point, Joe Citizen is going to enter the privacy of their polling place and concluding ... “we’re not in crisis mode necessitating a rash change”. I think that will benefit McCain. ... November 01, 2008 ...MNSlim

That's like a week after McCain made this 'winning' move to address the "crisis":

September 24, 2008: “Tomorrow morning, I will suspend my campaign and return to Washington ...

“We must meet as Americans, not as Democrats or Republicans, and we must meet until this crisis is resolved. I am directing my campaign to work with the Obama campaign and the commission on presidential debates to delay Friday night’s debate until we have taken action to address this crisis.”


144 posted on 04/07/2009 12:57:13 PM PDT by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: A.Hun; MNSlim
There was nothing conservative about demoralizing the Republican base

The "Republican base" ARE the COnservatives, ad they are not "demoralized". the RINO leadership are "de-moralized". the Conservatives are PISSED OFF.

145 posted on 04/07/2009 1:02:18 PM PDT by roamer_1 (It takes a (Kenyan) village to raise an idiot.)
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To: sickoflibs
“The republican party is what is in SERIOUS disarray. The reason why Republicans were able to win big in 1994 is they cleaned house (cleaned out dead establishment republicans) in 1993 after loss to Clinton. But in this case the same losers that destroyed the party and capitalism have hung on to do more damage. You cant oppose Obama if you agree with his policies but just dont like his party name, like you apparently do.”

You are right we have TWO Woman standing against the Marxist Hordes from the other side and from within and that is IT!!!! George Bush and that Remote controlled Zombie Mc Queeg and NOT Republicans if anything they stand middle of the road RAT Party, Not only that but are solely to blame for this Disaster that fell on us Nov 4.

146 posted on 04/07/2009 1:04:28 PM PDT by Cheetahcat (Osamabama Wright kind of Racist! We are in a state of War with Democrats)
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To: A.Hun

You BEST NOT be implying that I am a troll.


147 posted on 04/07/2009 1:07:25 PM PDT by Kimberly GG (Shoulda, Woulda, Coulda been HUNTER.)
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To: sickoflibs

Just damn.


148 posted on 04/07/2009 1:25:42 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (~"This is what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps !"~~)
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To: A.Hun
(...and don’t let them play the “I’m a real conservative” on you. There was nothing conservative about demoralizing the Republican base and helping Obama take power.)

What demoralized the base, was McInsane suspending his campaign and then voting for a bailout that had little public support. A bailout that was pork laden; something he'd campaigned against. The man showed himself to be two faced and ruined his own campaign.

But you are right, there was nothing conservative about this. After all, it came from McInsane himself, so that's a given.

As for we posters, myself included upthread, being trolls, I voted for Sarah Palin. McInsane just happened to be on the ticket. I wasn't going to vote at all until she was picked as his running mate. That was the only good, considered and decisive decision he made.

If you'd prefer a Republican forum, then go elsewhere. This is and will continue to be a conservative forum. Republicans get little notice here except when they show strong, unwavering support for conservative ideals.

149 posted on 04/07/2009 1:27:33 PM PDT by bcsco (I'm a Constitution defender!)
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To: rabscuttle385

I wasn’t talking to you or any of the rest of the trolls here. Maybe the truth just hurts.

You know exactly what I think of you,by the way. I have told you before. I haven’t got the least problem pinging you or anyone else, I just don’t have the time or the inclination anymore...the damage has been done already anyway.

For you to call this freeper a troll because he told the truth is rich...now buzz off.


150 posted on 04/07/2009 1:27:37 PM PDT by A.Hun (Common sense is no longer common.)
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To: bcsco; roamer_1; A.Hun; sickoflibs; rabscuttle385; fieldmarshaldj
What demoralized the base, was McInsane suspending his campaign and then voting for a bailout that had little public support. ...

True, but that was just a further demoralization.

I think they were really demoralized sometime about Feb 5th, when it first looked like McCain would win the nomination. Or, earlier... when the MSM kept pushing Rudy McRomney as the GOPs only hope.

Come to think about it, I can take the demoralization of the base all the way back to 2004 when the RNC chose to headline with the primetime speaking spots three huge RINOs: McCain, Schwarzenegger, and Giuliani.

151 posted on 04/07/2009 2:38:35 PM PDT by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: calcowgirl
True, but that was just a further demoralization.

I was speaking to the fact that polls showed McCain a couple percentage points ahead of Obama going into that decision. He came out of it the loser. Up to that point, regardless of the despondency aired here and elsewhere about the choice of McCain, Sarah Palin breathed new life into the campaign and made people sit up and listen. While not always on a conservative bent, the grassroots was energized, evidenced by the turnout at rallys. I believe the final tally was close enough to believe that had McCain acted differently during the bailout crisis, the election could well have turned out differently. Thus, McCain killed his own chances.

152 posted on 04/07/2009 2:46:14 PM PDT by bcsco (I'm a Constitution defender!)
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To: A.Hun; rabscuttle385
For you to call this freeper a troll because he told the truth is rich...now buzz off.

Implying that anyone who disagrees with you about your precious McCain is a Democrat troll or from Stormfront is sick, not "truth."

You only damage FR and conservatism by these outrageous slurs.

153 posted on 04/07/2009 2:55:20 PM PDT by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: bcsco
I believe the final tally was close enough to believe that had McCain acted differently during the bailout crisis, the election could well have turned out differently. Thus, McCain killed his own chances.

I agree that his idiotic "suspend my campaign" crap, followed by his support of TARP, clinched his landslide loss. I still think he lost way before that. Remember, his poll numbers actually showed him getting a large proportion of the Hispanic vote -- all myth created by pollsters and his campaign, IMO. McCain lost because he believed his own campaign press releases and was/is totally out of tune with the base and out of touch with reality.

154 posted on 04/07/2009 3:01:16 PM PDT by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: A.Hun; calcowgirl
For you to call this freeper a troll because he told the truth is rich...now buzz off.

I never called you a troll. I did, however, call you a Bushbot, as you are a "noted" one, per your profile.

I wasn’t talking to you or any of the rest of the trolls here.

It doesn't matter who you were talking to; if you talk about someone, particularly in a derogatory manner, please at least have the courtesy to ping them.

I haven’t got the least problem pinging you or anyone else, I just don’t have the time or the inclination anymore...

Laziness is an insufficient and sad excuse for your refusal to adhere to proper Freeper etiquette.

155 posted on 04/07/2009 3:34:35 PM PDT by rabscuttle385 ("If this be treason, then make the most of it!" —Patrick Henry)
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To: A.Hun; rabscuttle385
Maybe the truth just hurts.

The truth? Here's the TRUTH:

26%

156 posted on 04/07/2009 4:43:41 PM PDT by roamer_1 (It takes a (Kenyan) village to raise an idiot.)
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To: MNSlim
I get it. Obama is MY ENEMY. Not "Jorge" or "Juan" or "RINOs" It's Marxists in the Democrat party.

You're making us Minnesota FReepers look bad.

I'll try to save you, but ya gotta work with me.

Ever hear of "Quislings"?

Or "Copperheads"?

Or "Fifth Columnists"?

Or "Enablers"?

Or "Useful Idiots"?

Have you stopped to consider what the letters in the word RINO mean anytime lately?

I think constant usage has dulled the significance of the words.

Cheers!

157 posted on 04/07/2009 5:19:50 PM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: bcsco
Hey now, that's MY trademark kitty movie. ;-)

Cheers!

158 posted on 04/07/2009 5:26:19 PM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: A.Hun
You left out us rabid Palin supporters and ex-Fredheads.

Anti-Bushbot Sarcasm Torpedo ARMED. FIRE!!

Let me know how that vision thing is working out for you.

The first Bush handed the White House to the Dems by betraying the principles of the Reagan Revolution ("read my lips!").

The second Bush helped hand the White House to the Dems by doing such a piss-poor job of articulating his positions, and sounding so incoherent, that they made a community organizer with sketchy past, ties to terrorists like Ayers, and admitted narcotics usage sound like Winston Churchill in comparison.

"I will serve the Dark Side, like my father before me."

Cheers!

159 posted on 04/07/2009 5:31:56 PM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: rabscuttle385

y’all freepers are mean. McCain was right to tell the Mexicans they reaped what they sowed. I don’t know what y’alls problem is If more conservatives would have got off their royal butts and voted maybe we wouldn’t have the communists in office now


160 posted on 04/07/2009 5:34:00 PM PDT by yldstrk (My heros have always been cowboys--Reagan and Bush)
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