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McCain's Tough Talk Express [Angry Juan Returns, Mad at Hispanics for Not Supporting Him]
The National Journal ^ | 2009-04-04

Posted on 04/03/2009 6:38:57 AM PDT by rabscuttle385

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To: yldstrk; calcowgirl; grey_whiskers
RE :”I will NEVER forgive any motherfolking conservative who says the country got what it deserved.

No, the country got what it 'wanted'. What it 'wanted' was an end to Bush-McCain republicans. What it 'deserved' is a value judgment. Going after Obama and Dems is not enough. You have to give voters something to vote FOR and they thought Obama gave them that. Republicans didn't come close. McCain was Bla-Bla-Bla, vote for me because of Ayers.

181 posted on 04/07/2009 6:57:41 PM PDT by sickoflibs (RNC Party Theme : "We may be socialists, but they are Marxists!")
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To: yldstrk
I *did* so something.

Re-read my post 166, which you appear to have conspicuously ignored so far.

But railing on conservatives for not buckling is not going to draw any of the great middle towards the right; still less will it convert lefties.

...and it will be about as encouraging to the troops in the trenches as Harry Reid and Jack Murtha.

Cheers!

182 posted on 04/07/2009 7:02:06 PM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: rabscuttle385; roamer_1; fieldmarshaldj; calcowgirl; darkangel82; Gondring; Impy
Dont be surprised. Hannity was saying the same thing as MNSlim on Nov 3 and 4(that McCain would win) . His loyal ‘Great Americans’ actually believed him, even after he said the same thing November 2006 and was wrong. I heard him on car radio and was thinking how disappointed his followers would be. How about this? “Wow great news, the economy tanked, the stock market crashed with my 401K and house value, I am really happy about gasoline prices going down. I hope things get worse.

187 posted on Saturday, November 01, 2008 12:07:08 AM by MNSlim

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2121197/posts?page=187#187

183 posted on 04/07/2009 7:06:48 PM PDT by sickoflibs (RNC Party Theme : "We may be socialists, but they are Marxists!")
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To: yldstrk; calcowgirl
hardy har ha

I was not laughing at you (well ok, you were the butt of it, and deservedly so) I was laughing at calcowgirl. What she did was truly funny (that's what the *wink* thingy was for), even if it was at your expense. Humor usually is at someone's expense, you know.

Had I been laughing at you directly, you would have been pinged, I assure you.

it doesn’t change the foking fact that we have a commie for president.....maybe you spelling teachers can come up with a way to do something about it instead of gazing at my spelling

There is little difference in the outcome between Bush/Obama/McCain, so you will find no solace here. All are just as intent upon burying our sovereignty and our rights. You might buy some small amount of time with the Republicans, but anyone looking at it honestly will agree that your position is simply one of arguing about increment.

Any Conservative bound to principle will not be satisfied with that, as it still yields the exact same outcome. So here's the deal:

I am against the Republicans, even as much as I am against the Democrats. Both, as entities, are to be classified as "enemies domestic". I rise against them with equal zeal, tooth and nail, because the outcome from either one is exactly the same, and that condition will not change unless something happens to change the status quo.

It is I, and my kind, who seek to change that status quo. It is you who would be content to appease yourself with the moderate Republicans in control, while doing the very same things as the Democrats, albeit not as forcefully. To wit: I am already fully engaged, seeking to banish socialism from the Republican Party and return it to Reagan Conservatism; or barring that, the destruction of the Republican party so that a Conservative Party can rise to fill it's place.

I will not relent until the leadership of the Republican party is wholly removed and replaced with real Reagan Conservatives, or the Party is wholly destroyed, and I doubt that my fellows will stop either.

There can be no opposition to Obama and the Democrats if the Republicans will not rise to oppose them, and they will not oppose them when they largely are in agreement with them. Reaganites will oppose them with great and natural vigor. Socialists are Reaganites' natural prey.

IOW, you will get *nothing* except my unceasing ire until you make your party yield to the agreement that we all were under in the first place (Reagan). No more promises, no more mulligans. We are in dire need of Conservative leaders and it is the Republicans who are keeping them from rising.

It is not I, or my fellows who aren't "doing something about the communists" in Washington. It is you.

184 posted on 04/07/2009 7:34:05 PM PDT by roamer_1 (It takes a (Kenyan) village to raise an idiot.)
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To: sickoflibs
Hannity was saying the same thing

Hannity is a tool. I have not been able to stomach him (or Faux News) since he came out as Giuliani's best girlfriend...

185 posted on 04/07/2009 7:36:56 PM PDT by roamer_1 (It takes a (Kenyan) village to raise an idiot.)
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To: calcowgirl

Quisling:politicians who favor the interests of other nations or cultures over their own.


186 posted on 04/07/2009 7:42:22 PM PDT by GOPJ (Quisling:politicians who favor the interests of other nations or cultures over their own.Wikipedia)
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To: roamer_1

Then Steele as if McCain wasnt bad enough. Hannity was for GM bailout too.


187 posted on 04/07/2009 7:43:51 PM PDT by sickoflibs (RNC Party Theme : "We may be socialists, but they are Marxists!")
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To: yldstrk; grey_whiskers
you two are think you are so cute, you are both being completely obnoxious with that stupid trojan horse, i have been on this site for years cow

hardy har har................it doesn’t change the foking fact that we have a commie for president.....maybe you spelling teachers can come up with a way to do something about it instead of gazing at my spelling

First, the trojan horse was not directed at you, it was adding to terms that are often appropriate when looking at the record of one John Sidney McCain.

Second, noticing your grammar and spelling is unavoidable as you made it a central focal point of your trash-laden cuss-filled posts.

Third, several direct questions have been addressed to you but instead of responding in a reasonable fashion you choose instead to respond with personal attacks, vitriol, and juvenile slurs.

Don't expect to be treated like an adult unless you act like one.

188 posted on 04/07/2009 7:45:50 PM PDT by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: GOPJ

Quisling, Vidkun

(kwz´lng, Nor. vd´kn kvs´lng) (KEY) , 1887–1945, Norwegian fascist leader. An army officer, he served as military attaché in Petrograd (1918–19) and Helsinki (1919–21) and later assisted Fridtjof Nansen in relief work in Russia. He was Norwegian minister of defense from 1931 to 1933. He then left the Agrarian party to found the fascist Nasjonal Samling [national unity] party. In 1940 he helped Germany prepare the conquest of Norway. Remaining at the head of the sole party permitted by the Germans, he was made premier in 1942. Despite his unpopularity and difficulties with his German masters and within his own party, he remained in power until May, 1945, when, after the Germans in Norway surrendered, he was arrested. He was convicted of high treason and shot. From his name came the word quisling, meaning traitor. 1

See biography by P. M. Hayes (1972).


189 posted on 04/07/2009 7:52:12 PM PDT by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: sickoflibs

The thing that is really frustrating about the discussion going on at the link you posted is that the economy was a *real* issue to be discussed. Instead, folks on FR and on the campaign trail acted as if it was only a tool for the candidate to represent (or misrepresent) in such a way that it helped them get elected. When Charlie Black came out saying that a war in Georgia would be good for John McCain’s campaign, it showed just how desperate they were, IMO. And it also said what a sad state of affairs we have in this nation today that these are the only type of “leaders” we have to choose from.


190 posted on 04/07/2009 7:56:41 PM PDT by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: calcowgirl; yldstrk
Here, calcowgirl, stand aside one moment, please?

yld, they say a picture is worth a thousand words.

Here's some more advice for you.

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Cheers!

191 posted on 04/07/2009 8:07:13 PM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: calcowgirl; Impy; ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas; rabscuttle385; djsherin
RE “The thing that is really frustrating about the discussion going on at the link you posted is that the economy was a *real* issue to be discussed. Instead, folks on FR and on the campaign trail acted as if it was only a tool for the candidate to represent (or misrepresent) in such a way that it helped them get elected

We can see that because we are not blinded by party loyalty.
How could republicans seriously debate the economy in 2008? They had already camped out the “GWB Bush tax cuts created THE strong economy regardless of debt” position. They had already said the economy was looking good but maybe needed a few more tax cuts. Neither party had a clue, or cared.

Sadly back in 2000 I really believed if Republicans got power they would make things right. (I believed talk radio.) Then GWB got Sept 11, he got the country's trust and a blank check. We saw the result. Now I realize how dangerous either party can be. Hearing these Bush-Hannity-Steele-Bots repeat mindless talking points just makes it clearer.

Just now while typing this KNSS radio just played a commercial with a clip Rush paying how strong economy was up to end of 2006 but crashed in 2007 after Pelosi took over congress. So after 5-6 years of Republicans with both WH and congress economy crashes in 2007 (Sept), and Rush says the good was all Rs(GWB) and the bad was democrats. Now why didn't that sell in 2008?

Who would have expected this story by CBS now?

Peter Schiff CBS Evening News 4-2-09(China the ant, US the grasshopper)

192 posted on 04/07/2009 8:44:01 PM PDT by sickoflibs (RNC Party Theme : "We may be socialists, but they are Marxists!")
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To: sickoflibs
I'm with you 100% on your analysis. My simplistic (partial assessment) goes something like this: Clinton built a bubble via the dotcom boom to make his economic stats look positive and for people to feel good. That bubble burst and so the new Administrateion reinflated it with government and personal borrowing for housing, infrastructure and the like. When they didn't have enough workers to build their house-of-cards and inflate the numbers, they imported them via open borders. When they still didn't have enough money to pay for it, they created CDOs and other derivatives. And so on. The CDO/CDS arrangements allowed lenders to quickly purge the risk/liability from their books and to use their profit taking for lavish gifts upon their favored politicians. Lots of back scratching going on...

I remember when people started to float the "economy only bad since the Dems took over" mantra in 2006 and just shook my head. Until the electorate takes their head out of the ground and looks at what is happening, our chances of having a free country left are looking worse and worse.

193 posted on 04/07/2009 9:03:11 PM PDT by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: calcowgirl; yldstrk; grey_whiskers
Third, several direct questions have been addressed to you but instead of responding in a reasonable fashion you choose instead to respond with personal attacks, vitriol, and juvenile slurs.

Methinks it squeaks and runs away mouse-wise...


194 posted on 04/07/2009 9:23:42 PM PDT by roamer_1 (It takes a (Kenyan) village to raise an idiot.)
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To: Grunthor
1) Either man would have been utter disaster for this nation.

Possibly not. We'll never know.

One thing is for sure: Obama's presidency is already the worst political disaster this country has ever seen.

195 posted on 04/07/2009 11:00:06 PM PDT by Chunga (Vote Republican)
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To: yldstrk; calcowgirl; grey_whiskers
you two are think you are so cute, you are both being completely obnoxious with that stupid trojan horse, i have been on this site for years cow



When you find yourself in a hole...

196 posted on 04/08/2009 4:11:33 AM PDT by NonLinear ( If you can't be kind, at least have the decency to be vague.)
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To: grey_whiskers

It’s one of the best.


197 posted on 04/08/2009 4:33:31 AM PDT by bcsco (I'm a Constitution defender!)
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To: calcowgirl
RE :”I remember when people started to float the “economy only bad since the Dems took over” mantra in 2006 and just shook my head.

I have seen many recent posts/replies using the argument that the GWB tax cuts promoted 5 years of historical economic growth, but Barney Frank crashed economy in 2007 or 2008 with his CRA home loans. Carter and Clinton's names are mentioned at fault too. Oh yes, and all those tax revenues the government got in 2005 and 2006, proof that the GWB tax cuts worked increasing revenue, the GWB economy. Forget the national public and private debt, that was all democrats fault.

I wouldn't even mind as much if these idiotic talking points sold, but they failed badly last election because they are not believable. Yet they not only continue this but they even claim to not repeat them mindlessly will hurt republicans.When you try to point out the illogic you are accused of helping democrats (it's a bit late for that, THEY WON!)

198 posted on 04/08/2009 7:01:31 AM PDT by sickoflibs (RNC Party Theme : "We may be socialists, but they are Marxists!")
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To: Chunga

“Obama’s presidency is already the worst political disaster this country has ever seen.”

It has been pretty bad. The worst? I think he’s got a ways to go yet.


199 posted on 04/08/2009 7:19:20 AM PDT by Grunthor
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To: grey_whiskers

“Shall I forward your message?”

I’s be much obliged.


200 posted on 04/08/2009 7:20:48 AM PDT by Grunthor
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