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To: Wpin; annalex
"It is an insult to read illogical and poorly thought out “reasoning” regarding something as holy as the Shroud of Turin. That is truly the insult on this thread. "

A fake Shroud is not in the least "holy." And there is no evidence -- none -- to "prove" it authentic. Nor could it ever be "proved," even if carbon-14 testing showed it from the 1st century.

Of course, if you WISH to believe it, that is totally, totally your choice. But you have no special right to run around claiming to be "insulted" every time someone tells the truth about the Shroud: that it is most unlikely to be authentic.

Finally, I refer you to annalex's post #205:

"The Church does not consider the shroud “proved”. One is not required to believe anything in particular about the shroud. There are signs pointing to that being authentic shroud of Christ, — its unexplained physical properties, consistence with what we do know of Christ and 1c Palestine, and the legent around it.

"For nearly sure it is a burial cloth of someone, so it deserves respect on that level. It does not deserve to be ripped to shreds out of some curiosity. "It surely reminds us powerfully of Christ. I am convinced that even if disproved by carbon dating or something else it will retain that power."

I disagree with none of that.

221 posted on 02/02/2010 2:51:14 PM PST by BroJoeK (a little historical perspective...)
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To: BroJoeK

You are simply ignorant of the facts. For instance, no where in the history of the world has such a image been created as in the Shroud. The forensics fit perfectly with a man who was scourged and crucified in the manner as Jesus was. The carbon dating was found to be invalid because the part they took the sample from was a patch from the medieval era so it dated that time frame.

Your ridiculous speculation that the image in the shroud would not fit the “average Jew” and “average height” whatever the hell that means...you don’t have a clue what those are, neither do the sources you got your information from. Indeed, you never did answer my question asking you if you knew that bronze age Greeks were taller than modern day? I didn’t bother to inform you that there was no real average height for knights in the medieval period. Much depended on food supply while being a child so heights varied quite a bit.

You also were never able to answer what Gene traits God has...he is Jesus’ father after all.

You even stooped to declaring that because Judas went with the Romans to identify Christ that that meant he could not have been tall...gee, we do the same thing today...ever hear of a police line up? There are legal reasons for positive identification of ‘perpetrators’.

The inane ignorance you show is so distasteful that I simply had to respond.

To so rudely and ignorantly disparage a holy relic to people of faith is cruel and you are an obvious ass, an ignorant ass, but an ass just the same. So, crawl back into your little hole and rot.


222 posted on 02/02/2010 6:46:26 PM PST by Wpin (I do not regret my admiration for W)
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