Posted on 04/07/2009 12:17:49 PM PDT by GodGunsGuts
No I do not.
Do you think that dinosaurs and humans lived contemporaneously?
Yes.
When Christ referenced “the days of Noah”, seemingly endorsing the Genesis account, was he being candid, “allegorical” or deceptive?
Jesus was directly tying the parable of creation to the concept of the sabbath, work six days and rest on the seventh. Of course a “day” to God is “as a thousand years, and a thousand years a day”.
==Yes, you may indeed be surprised to learn that the majority of scientists in the USA are people of faith.
Yah, right. See the following:
http://kspark.kaist.ac.kr/jesus/intelligence%20&%20religion.htm
==You might also be surprised to learn that young Earth creationisms is a minority position.
Unless Allmendream has already forgotten the Gallop polls I sent him to him earlier TODAY, he is deliberately misrepresenting the facts. He tried to claim that a 2008 Gallop poll demonstrates that young earth creationists are now in the minority (he didn’t provide a link, of course!). I tracked it down, and lo and behold, the poll said the exact opposite! See the following link for more:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2224556/posts?page=92#92
Most scientists in the USA are people of faith.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/8916982/
44% is a majority GGG?
I know you don’t know anything about science or much of anything else.
Can we now add math to the growing list of things you have no idea about?
44% is not a majority.
==Is Qaddafi a secularist?
Thank God you don’t work for our intel. services! Once again:
Another question from you ignorant quiz: In 1988, Pan Am Flight 103 was bombed by: (a) A college-bound freshman (b) A cardiac surgeon on his way to Houston (c) A waitress (d) Middle Eastern Islamist males between the ages of 17 and 40.
My answer:
In 2003, Libya accepted responsibility for the attacks and agreed to pay victims’ families compensation.
http://terrorism.about.com/od/originshistory/p/PanAmBombing.htm
“I would like the people to vanquish the government, the armies, the police, the parties, and the parliaments,” he said in explanation of his notion of direct democracy in which people rule themselves without the mediation of traditional governmental institutions. “I am the prophet of the revolution and not the prophet of Allah,” Qadhafi declared in the same interview, “for what interests me in this century is that The Green Book become the bible of the modern world.”
“The **secular** basis of Qadhafi’s philosophy was emphasized further by the Libyan adoption of the Baath Party slogan of unity, freedom, and socialism.”
http://www.country-studies.com/libya/political-ideology.html
Griffin: As the Soviet connection with international terrorism became increasingly obvious, the KGB made a tactical decision to establish training centers in countries that, generally, are not regarded as Communist. In this way, the Soviets could disclaim responsibility.
An example is Libya, under the dictatorship of Muammar Quadafi. Quadafi’s army and air force are almost entirely supplied by the Soviet Union.
Altogether, there are 5,000 military personnel from the Eastern Communist Bloc and from Cuba.[6] Libya received $2.5 billion worth of arms from the Soviets between 1974 and 1981, an amount far in excess of its own internal needs. Most of these arms have moved through Libya and into the terrorist network.
The Provisional IRA in Ireland has been receiving weapons from Libya at the race of over $5 million per year. They received their first Russian helicopter and rocket launchers as early as 1972.
Quadafi has maintained three separate training camps which are staffed by personnel from the Soviet Union and East Germany. He has provided instructions, money, or weapons to practically every terrorist group in the world. He has been one of the primary financial sponsors of the PLO, and he openly has called for the death of any Arab leader who is friendly to the United States.
http://www.realityzone.com/noplacetohide1.html
As chief of Romanian foreign intelligence, I worked closely with Libya’s Muammar Khaddafi before I became, in 1978, the highest-ranking spy from the Soviet bloc to defect to America. I was Khaddafi’s handler as he was gearing up these same weapons programs. Moscow had decided in 1972 to use three leftist Arab governments — Libya, Iraq, and Syria — plus Arafat’s PLO, to wreak terror against our prime enemy, “American imperial-Zionism.” Yuri Andropov, then head of the KGB and soon to be the Soviet leader, assigned Libya to Romania because we already had close intelligence connections with Khaddafi, who, along with Kim Il Sung, had long been eager for chemical weapons, and to acquire Romanian technology for “dirty” suitcase-sized radioactive bombs. Moscow kept charge of Iraq for itself. Andropov told me then that Syria would be next, if our Libyan experiment proved successful; President Hafez Assad’s brother was already our well-paid agent.
http://www.nationalreview.com/comment/pacepa200312290001.asp
That poll doesn’t speak to the age of the Earth - it speaks to the age of Man so why are you trying to mislead people into thinking it says something it doesn’t?
Exactly as I said about the Gallop poll, only 44% hold the view of a young Earth. 50% hold the view of an ancient Earth.
Once again the sources you cite do not support your contentions GGG.
Do you claim that 44% is a majority?
You obviously have no clue, Barney.
{Hint: It wasn't a parable (not that you know what that means either).}
Just how Islamic does the guy have to be? Qaddafi is not now and has never been anything other than a Muslim.
There is nothing inherently anti-Islamic about socialism. One can certainly be both. Qaddafi runs a system that is called “Islamic Socialism” and yet you think he is a secularist based upon nothing more than your need to distance Islam from the terrorism that it embraces.
Be sure to put the saber tooth cat out!
It would appear that we have studies that conflict with one another. I think I will stick with the studies carried out by scientists about scientists, rather than the pmsNBC article about a study that mixes together social scientists with the biological and natural scientists. Besides, I thought we already established that the more a scientist is brainwashed by the Temple of Darwinistic Materialism in the form of higher degrees, the more likely they are to be an atheist. Do you disagree with this statement?
I was quite satisfied with my answer.
The parable of creation was linked directly to the concept of the Sabbath.
Did Jesus not say he would teach using parable?
To you does a parable mean a lie because it is truth while not being factual?
==Exactly as I said about the Gallop poll, only 44% hold the view of a young Earth. 50% hold the view of an ancient Earth.
Oh, I get it. I just assumed you meant a contest between those who believe God guided evolution and those who believe biblical creation. You want to include the atheists too. Why does that not surprise me? But then again, you don’t even believe God guided evolution, so that puts you solidly in the atheist camp, the smallest minority of all. Ever wonder why you are always in the athesit camp, Allmendream???
No, the more educated someone is the LESS LIKELY they are to be a Creationist. Not being a creationists is, once again for the thinking impaired, not synonymous with being an atheist.
And do you claim that 44% is a majority? You seem to be avoiding answering that question.
Young Earth Creationism is NOT a majority position. 44% does not constitute a majority. 50% of people polled accepted the ancient age of the Earth. Obviously if more people believe in an old earth than a young earth then belief in a young earth CANNOT be a majority position.
Or are you using “creation science” mathematics when you claim that 44% is a majority?
When Jesus referred to the “days of Noah” it was not part of a parable.
I’m shocked that someone as smart as you always tell us you are doesn’t know that.
After all, we are discussing a statement by your Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ!
Are you anything other than a one trick pony GGG.
All you can do is try to claim that either someone believes exactly as you do or they are an atheist. And you wonder why I bring up the Pope to you so often, and yet STILL you cannot wrap you mind around the concept.
Also, I believe that God guides EVERYTHING. It is Creationists who attempt to limit God’s power to not including guiding things that are random or probabilistic. Are you unfamiliar with my typical riff on the Creationists boogeyman of “random” somehow meaning “not under God’s control”?
Prov 16:33 The dice are cast into the lap, but every result is from the Lord.
Do you deny that Jesus said he would teach using parable?
Does a parable have to be actually true in order to convey an essential truth?
If you concentrate on the minutiae of trying to scientifically determine the correctness of the parable, you miss out on the essential truth that it is attempting to convey to you.
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