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Obama to Push Immigration Bill as One Priority
New York Times ^ | 4/8/9 | JULIA PRESTON

Posted on 04/08/2009 8:19:55 PM PDT by bimboeruption

While acknowledging that the recession makes the political battle more difficult, President Obama plans to begin addressing the country’s immigration system this year, including looking for a path for illegal immigrants to become legal, a senior administration official said on Wednesday.

Mr. Obama will frame the new effort — likely to rouse passions on all sides of the highly divisive issue — as “policy reform that controls immigration and makes it an orderly system,” said the official, Cecilia Muñoz, deputy assistant to the president and director of intergovernmental affairs in the White House.

Mr. Obama plans to speak publicly about the issue in May, administration officials said, and over the summer he will convene working groups, including lawmakers from both parties and a range of immigration groups, to begin discussing possible legislation for as early as this fall.

Some White House officials said that immigration would not take precedence over the health care and energy proposals that Mr. Obama has identified as priorities. But the timetable is consistent with pledges Mr. Obama made to Hispanic groups in last year’s campaign.

He said then that comprehensive immigration legislation, including a plan to make legal status possible for an estimated 12 million illegal immigrants, would be a priority in his first year in office. Latino voters turned out strongly for Mr. Obama in the election.

“He intends to start the debate this year,” Ms. Muñoz said.

But with the economy seriously ailing, advocates on different sides of the debate said that immigration could become a polarizing issue for Mr. Obama in a year when he has many other major battles to fight.

Opponents, mainly Republicans, say they will seek to mobilize popular outrage against any effort to legalize unauthorized immigrant workers while so many Americans are out of jobs.

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Constitution/Conservatism; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 111th; aliens; amnesty; bho44; bhoillegals; dreamact; illegals; immigration; mexico; obama
Barry is intent on ruining this country. There is no doubt in my mind.
1 posted on 04/08/2009 8:19:55 PM PDT by bimboeruption
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To: bimboeruption

It worked out so well the last time.


2 posted on 04/08/2009 8:22:26 PM PDT by La Lydia
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To: bimboeruption

This means one of two things.

1) Obama has destroyed any chance at a second term.

-OR-

2) The end of America as we know it.


3 posted on 04/08/2009 8:22:28 PM PDT by Trod Upon (Obama: Making the Carter malaise look good. Misery Index in 3...2...1)
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To: bimboeruption; All

The government official quoted is Cecilia Muñoz, a former top official for La Raza, a radical open-borders Latino advocacy group:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Council_of_La_Raza

G*d Save America.


4 posted on 04/08/2009 8:24:21 PM PDT by quesney
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To: Trod Upon

Executive orders are so...so...easy.


5 posted on 04/08/2009 8:24:22 PM PDT by givemELL (Does Taiwan Meet the Criteria to Qualify as an "Overseas Territory of the United States"? by Richar)
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To: bimboeruption

Obama’s a bigger dirtbag than I had imagined.


6 posted on 04/08/2009 8:25:58 PM PDT by ruination
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To: bimboeruption
“One Priority”...but not priority one.

He'll start a fire over here, a fire over there and attempt to spread us as thin as possible.

Time to pour water on the match.

7 posted on 04/08/2009 8:26:01 PM PDT by Semper Mark (No Quarter Given.)
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To: Trod Upon

“Obama has destroyed any chance at a second term.”

Only if he fails to fast track the amnesty to include voting rights in the 2012 election.


8 posted on 04/08/2009 8:27:57 PM PDT by Rebelbase
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To: bimboeruption

If they legalize the status of the 12 to 20 million illegals already here, they will in turn be able to sponsor another 66 million to 100 million more LEGAL immigrants thru chain migration, i.e., family reunification. America will be destroyed withs the stroke of a pen. It is game, set, and match for the USA.


9 posted on 04/08/2009 8:28:23 PM PDT by kabar
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To: bimboeruption

Illegals are already Citizens ...... Of other Countries. The path to Citizenship is deportation to their home Country.
Obama ratings are headed to the Basement on this one.


10 posted on 04/08/2009 8:29:26 PM PDT by 4Speed
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To: All
"He said then that comprehensive immigration legislation, including a plan to make legal status possible for an estimated 12 million illegal immigrants, would be a priority in his first year in office. Latino voters turned out strongly for Mr. Obama in the election."

12 MILLION MORE getting some kind of government assistance.

We taxpayers will be bled dry.

11 posted on 04/08/2009 8:29:29 PM PDT by bimboeruption (Clinging to my Bible and my HK.)
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To: Rebelbase

They don’t need voting rights to destroy this country. And they will be picked up in the 2010 Census.


12 posted on 04/08/2009 8:29:30 PM PDT by kabar
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To: bimboeruption
Mr. Obama will frame the new effort — likely to rouse passions on all sides of the highly divisive issue — as “policy reform that controls immigration and makes it an orderly system,” said the official, Cecilia Muñoz, deputy assistant to the president and director of intergovernmental affairs in the White House.

The administration and the media would like to frame this as a divisive issue but it is not. I believe immigration is one of the few issues where most Americans agree. It is the elected officials that don't agree with the citizens of this country and therein lies the problem.
13 posted on 04/08/2009 8:29:50 PM PDT by dmartin (Not the 'Change' you were 'Hoping' for?)
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To: bimboeruption

If a president got power who was intentionally trying to destroy this country, his initiatives wouldn’t be very different from what Obama’s doing:

Lay on enormous debt that will not stimulate the economy.

Use this debt as an excuse to slash the defense budget.

Destroy our technological edge in defense in crucial areas, such as missile defense.

Prevent meaningful energy exploration so we remain enslaved to Arab oil.

Demonize the most productive members of society.

Highly tax innovation and investment.

Pass amnesty to flood our country will immigrants.

Piss off our real allies (i.e. New Europe, Israel, Japan).

I’m sure I’ve missed some things, but he is turning out to be a true Manchurian Candidate. We may never recover if we don’t get the Congress back and get him out in 2012.


14 posted on 04/08/2009 8:32:20 PM PDT by Rob the Ugly Dude
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To: bimboeruption

“Legalization” is going to happen....they brought these “voters” into this country....they will get them legalized and then they have millions of new votes....what part of this don’t people understand....they have the House and Senate and Presidency....game over....it is a shame....I am from Illinois and this political cesspool will never go back to Republican or civilized control...it will forever be corrupt.....


15 posted on 04/08/2009 8:33:43 PM PDT by There You Go Again
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To: bimboeruption
You are forgetting the at least 66 million more LEGAL immigrants whom they will sponsor. Senate Immigration Bill Would Allow 66 Million New Legal Immigrants over the Next Twenty Years by Robert Rector
16 posted on 04/08/2009 8:33:57 PM PDT by kabar
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To: dmartin
The “elected officials” are the problem.
I realize that that statement seems to be a simple minded assessment, but it's
a plain and simple fact.
17 posted on 04/08/2009 8:34:07 PM PDT by Semper Mark (No Quarter Given.)
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To: bimboeruption

Has anyone noticed that Prince Harry and Queen Nancy have been incognito for the past several weeks? Why is it that The Kenyan is the only one in the spotlight? If the HNIC is so Christ-like, wouldn’t you want to act like an apostle and get some of the glory on you if you could? Wouldn’t you be jostling 2nd rate actors like John Kerry aside to get your mug in front of the camera with Hopeychange? And yet it’s curiously not happening.


18 posted on 04/08/2009 8:34:42 PM PDT by randog (Tap into America!)
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To: kabar
America will be destroyed withs the stroke of a pen. It is game, set, and match for the USA.

I can't sleep at night thinking about how this once great country is ruled by power-hungry, corrupt, evil-doers and inhabited, for the most part, by stupid slackers looking for a handout.

19 posted on 04/08/2009 8:35:57 PM PDT by bimboeruption (Clinging to my Bible and my HK.)
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To: La Lydia

www.numbersusa.com

Free faxes to Congress to stop amnesty. It worked last time. It is free and the letters are set up for you. Takes a few minutes to registr and two minutes a week to check the faxes you need to send.

Do it. Turn off the TV and the ball game everyone. Get friends and relatives to use it.

The illegals will be pushing for it but the Dems voters will be lukewarm. We still have the vote.

He is a disaster. I was in a store today and an older lady was letting everyone know what a disaster he is. People are fed up.

www.numbersusa.com.


20 posted on 04/08/2009 8:36:14 PM PDT by Frantzie (Boycott GE - they own NBC, MSNBC, CNBC & Universal. Boycott Disney - they own ABC)
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To: bimboeruption

This about getting new democrat voters


21 posted on 04/08/2009 8:36:49 PM PDT by stainlessbanner
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To: dmartin

Unfortunately, most Americans are ill-informed on the immigration issue. They will buy the “back of the line, pay a fine, and learn English” nonsense and the politicians will emphasize that we are a nation of immigrants. Most Americans don’t realize that you are not legalizing just 12 million [probably over 20 million] but opening the door for another 66 million LEGAL immigrants who will join the 12 million.


22 posted on 04/08/2009 8:37:34 PM PDT by kabar
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To: Tennessee Nana; AuntB; TerryAnderson

The Bush-Obama Amnesty Crusade resumes, once again to be stopped dead in its tracks by an outraged American public.


23 posted on 04/08/2009 8:38:23 PM PDT by Pelham (America, an extinct culture formerly occupying Mexifornia and New Aztlan.)
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To: kabar

www.numbersusa.com

Free faxes. It is the NRA in stopping the amnesty and was instrumental last time. Takes 2 minutes to register and 2 minutes a week to review and check. Get all your friends and relatives to use it. It was instrumental in stopping the last amnesty attempt.


24 posted on 04/08/2009 8:38:32 PM PDT by Frantzie (Boycott GE - they own NBC, MSNBC, CNBC & Universal. Boycott Disney - they own ABC)
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To: stainlessbanner

It’s about destroying what’s left of the historic American culture, something Bush started and Obama intends to finish.


25 posted on 04/08/2009 8:39:56 PM PDT by Pelham (America, an extinct culture formerly occupying Mexifornia and New Aztlan.)
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To: Frantzie

I am a member of NumbersUSA and have worked with Roy Beck in lobbying the Hill as part of a local grassroots immigration group over the past three years.


26 posted on 04/08/2009 8:40:26 PM PDT by kabar
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To: kabar

Excellent. We must tell everyone to use it and donate if they can. Thank you and Roy for your efforts.

www.numbersusa.com


27 posted on 04/08/2009 8:42:37 PM PDT by Frantzie (Boycott GE - they own NBC, MSNBC, CNBC & Universal. Boycott Disney - they own ABC)
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To: bimboeruption

Barry wants to get all illegal immigrants legal then bring in millions more before the census... and with ACORNS help he must become KING OBAMA or President for life!


28 posted on 04/08/2009 8:45:02 PM PDT by A. Morgan (The problem with Socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money. Margaret Thatcher)
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To: Rob the Ugly Dude; All
If a president got power who was intentionally trying to destroy this country, his initiatives wouldn’t be very different from what Obama’s doing:

Lay on enormous debt that will not stimulate the economy.

Use this debt as an excuse to slash the defense budget.

Destroy our technological edge in defense in crucial areas, such as missile defense.

Prevent meaningful energy exploration so we remain enslaved to Arab oil.

Demonize the most productive members of society.

Highly tax innovation and investment.

Pass amnesty to flood our country will immigrants.

Piss off our real allies (i.e. New Europe, Israel, Japan).

I’m sure I’ve missed some things, but he is turning out to be a true Manchurian Candidate. We may never recover if we don’t get the Congress back and get him out in 2012.

If we don't stop this, our kids are screwed.

These tea parties are a way to vent our frustrations, but what I think we need to do is SHUT DOWN WASHINGTON.

We need to get in our cars, head there and park in the streets and just sit.

Anybody got any other ideas?

29 posted on 04/08/2009 8:46:18 PM PDT by bimboeruption (Clinging to my Bible and my HK.)
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To: Frantzie

Roy has just sent out a message enlisting support against the Dems who appear to be on the verge of putting the Dream Act up for a vote very soon. This would be a piecemeal amnesty for anyone under 35.


30 posted on 04/08/2009 8:47:02 PM PDT by kabar
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To: Trod Upon
I'm afraid we wont have the right to vote in 4 years!
31 posted on 04/08/2009 8:48:47 PM PDT by mrsalty
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To: bimboeruption

I just don’t see it passing. The American people are being unemployed, we are on the brink of an inflationary period and things are going to get worse. As the economy goes down the chutes, people are going to be pissed. And you want to legalize people who should not be here while Americans are unemployed? Could be a summer of rage with every thing else going south.


32 posted on 04/08/2009 8:49:30 PM PDT by aps
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To: Frantzie

The most effective way to communicate with a congressional office is on the phone. Interns deal with the faxes and the Internet messages. Usually that involves moving them directly to the circular file. Phone calls, on the other hand, have to be immediately acknowledged and on issues like this, they keep a running score count of pro and con. Three calls a day: one to each of your senators, and one to your congressman, made daily for several weeks or months, can do a world of good. Change your message, your town and your name every day you call. I’m not saying don’t fax and email, too, but your primary weapon should be your phone. Remember last time when we shut down the Capitol phone system?


33 posted on 04/08/2009 8:51:17 PM PDT by La Lydia
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To: Pelham
It’s about destroying what’s left of the historic American culture, something Bush started and Obama intends to finish.

That jerk McCain had the same intentions.

Some choice we had in the last election.

34 posted on 04/08/2009 8:52:10 PM PDT by bimboeruption (Clinging to my Bible and my HK.)
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To: Trod Upon

Honestly....with everything that has taken place this early in this presidency and what they are proposing, do you really believe that there will be an election in 2012?


35 posted on 04/08/2009 9:00:03 PM PDT by TennTuxedo
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To: bimboeruption
Mr. Obama will frame the new effort ... as “policy reform that controls immigration and makes it an orderly system,”

That's the ticket, just attach the right label on anything and the public will accept it.

36 posted on 04/08/2009 9:00:45 PM PDT by eclecticEel ("Envy is always referred to by its political alias, 'social justice.' " - T. Sowell)
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To: bimboeruption

What’s important is 12 Million more Democrat votes for Bambi’s 3rd term.


37 posted on 04/08/2009 9:06:56 PM PDT by pankot
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To: eclecticEel
That's the ticket, just attach the right label on anything and the public will accept it.

"Back in 1927, an American socialist, Norman Thomas, six times candidate for President on the Socialist Party ticket, said that the American people would never vote for socialism but he said under the name of liberalism the American people they would adopt every fragment of the socialist program."
President Ronald Reagan

38 posted on 04/08/2009 9:07:17 PM PDT by bimboeruption (Clinging to my Bible and my HK.)
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To: bimboeruption

If this doesn’t get the opposition into action, I don’t know what will...


39 posted on 04/08/2009 9:08:26 PM PDT by Hildy (Dr. King had a dream. Obama has an ELF who has a “plan”.)
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To: bimboeruption

Rage!


40 posted on 04/08/2009 9:17:50 PM PDT by Underground Resistance (Free Man Ready)
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To: Rebelbase

“Only if he fails to fast track the amnesty to include voting rights in the 2012 election.”

And that is where option #2 comes into play.


41 posted on 04/08/2009 9:20:53 PM PDT by Trod Upon (Obama: Making the Carter malaise look good. Misery Index in 3...2...1)
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To: bimboeruption

Obama is actually sounding a lot like Ronald Reagan with regards to immigration, even using Reagan’s “hide in the shadows” line. He seems to be wanting to rehash Reagan’s “North American accord”.

Here’s some quotes from an interesting article:

“But even as he signed that bill, he [Reagan] also insisted on a provision for legalizing immigrants already in the U.S...”

“In his signing statement, Reagan declared that “We have consistently supported a legalization program which is both generous to the alien and fair to the countless thousands of people throughout the world who seek legally to come to America. The legalization provisions in this act will go far to improve the lives of a class of individuals who now must hide in the shadows, without access to many of the benefits of a free and open society. Very soon many of these men and women will be able to step into the sunlight and, ultimately, if they choose, they may become Americans.”

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB114773982558453625.html?mod=todays_us_opinion

By the way, what model HK do you have?


42 posted on 04/08/2009 9:42:37 PM PDT by jackmercer
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This is a lie, there have been a wide variety of opponents from all parties.

All the way back to the 2006 election where many Democrats won seats based on their promise to oppose Amnesty!

A BS article from the NYT’s, as usual, meant to create a perception rather than report accurately. Also, Real Americans that are out of work aren't from one party.

***Opponents, mainly Republicans, say they will seek to mobilize popular outrage against any effort to legalize unauthorized immigrant workers while so many Americans are out of jobs.***

43 posted on 04/08/2009 9:49:17 PM PDT by msnpatriot
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To: bimboeruption
Obama is on a track to destroy this country within his 6 month goal. I would love to actually debate him one on one, and the first thing to go would be the teleprompter that tells him what to say. I would, along with every normal thinking person in America that loves this country, would have bamy crying for his Momma within 10 minutes. I will stick with the same tag-line I have had for a long time.
44 posted on 04/08/2009 9:55:11 PM PDT by SledgeCS (Build the fence. Deport the Illegals. Sell all their assets to cover the cost.)
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To: jackmercer
Thanks for the WSJ link regarding Reagan's thoughts on immigration. Now I have some reading to do.

I have a P30L which I love. I'm saving up for another one -- either a P2000 or a USP.

I have little, wimpy, girl hands and have trouble pulling back the slide on most pistols, but have to problem at all with most of the HK models.

45 posted on 04/08/2009 10:01:17 PM PDT by bimboeruption (Clinging to my Bible and my HK.)
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To: SledgeCS
Obama is on a track to destroy this country within his 6 month goal.

I hope the stupid slackers who voted for him get what they deserve.

46 posted on 04/08/2009 10:15:33 PM PDT by bimboeruption (Clinging to my Bible and my HK.)
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To: Frantzie
My note on a duplicate thread:

PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE spend a few dimes and FAX this IMPOSTER of a president your objections to his AMNESTY plans. If there is one thing this thin-skinned buffoon cannot tolerate, it is public ridicule. Please denounce his plan while you ridicule his stupidity and incompetence.

The White House FAX is 202.456.2461; the comments line is 202.456.1111.

I happily scribble address him as "Dear Mr. Teleprompter" or whatever else pops into my head that day.

In other words, we must start our offensive tactics now, not wait till Congress gets involved. Please join FAIR and NumbersUSA if you haven't already, and prepare to battle your congressional members, too. Simply wringing our hands on this board won't get the job done. Thank you.

Regards . . . Penny

Yes, calling congressional members, even those not in your area, is effective and responsible. After all, their decisions in this matter affects all American citizens most profoundly.

47 posted on 04/09/2009 12:38:05 AM PDT by Penny
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To: bimboeruption

How are we to stop this?


48 posted on 04/09/2009 1:33:48 AM PDT by Grandma Conservative
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To: bimboeruption

“I have a P30L which I love. I’m saving up for another one — either a P2000 or a USP.”

That thing is a work of art IMO, lucky you. I have been drooling over the USP and USPc for years as well as HK toys like the 91 .308 and of course the MP5. Just too darn expensive so I have to settle for 3rd world clones :(


49 posted on 04/09/2009 5:31:39 AM PDT by jackmercer
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