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The seal is broken on seceding from the Union and is now mainstream discussion.
U4prez.com ^ | 4/16/2009 | Eric Gurr

Posted on 04/16/2009 6:50:11 AM PDT by rrdog

What is the root of the secessionist movement? The driving force at the grass roots level is of course money. Many Americans are rightly disturbed by the transfer of their wealth, and the wealth of their children, to companies that made risky investments, or were poorly managed. This is new territory for the government. The transfer started under George W. Bush with his bank bailout and auto makers bailouts, and the Obama administration has really poured on the spending with additional bailouts and stimulus packages. Citizens of more fiscally conservative states are finding that there money is being redirected from their pockets, and sent to other states.

In years past politicians from both parties have used the guilt factor to increase spending for the "needy". This tempers the backlash from the populace as they realize they are to sacrifice a new boat, or nicer home, for the greater good of society. Today, citizens are being asked to sacrifice their children's education, vacations, and even the home they are in, so that money can be transferred from their wallets to multi-billion dollar corporations.

When we add more government controls and regulations on everything from cigarettes, to fast food and guns, we begin to see the problem. Government is now coming at everyone at some level, over some issue. This piling on is causing those fringe secessionist movements to became mainstream very quickly.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: 10thamendment; confederacy; confederate; cwii; seceding; secession; statesrights
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To: Non-Sequitur
Sure. Delta is ready when you are.

Seriously, you might consider reading about the Third Reich. Sometimes the things you say would make Goebbels blush.

321 posted on 04/19/2009 11:46:17 AM PDT by central_va (Co. C, 15th Va., Patrick Henry Rifles-The boys of Hanover Co.)
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To: central_va
Seriously, you might consider reading about the Third Reich. Sometimes the things you say would make Goebbels blush.

Why? What's Nazi-like about being free to come and go as you please? If I were Gobbels then I'd lock you up in a concentration camp just for thinking about leaving. Rather than me read up on Nazi Germany, or the confederacy for that matter, I'd think that you would do well to do some reading of your own.

322 posted on 04/19/2009 11:51:41 AM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: Rustabout
well said.

the war against the south-HATING, arrogant, DAMNyankees continues until southern FREEDOM's DAWN, absent GUNFIRE.

free dixie,sw

323 posted on 04/19/2009 12:08:02 PM PDT by stand watie (Resistance to TYRANTS is OBEDIENCE to God. T. Jefferson, 1804)
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To: Non-Sequitur
I'd think that you would do well to do some reading of your own.

I'm well versed in what the Federal Monster led by a ruthless butcher can do to a group of states that tries to "come and go as they please". I read it in horror but you probably get aroused studying the "Torches" Atlanta campaign.

324 posted on 04/19/2009 12:13:21 PM PDT by central_va (Co. C, 15th Va., Patrick Henry Rifles-The boys of Hanover Co.)
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To: Non-Sequitur; All
still trying to "change the subject" AWAY from your KNOWING DISHONESTY, aren't you???

fyi, it won't work this time as EVERYONE (with the possible exception of a FEW of the more ignorant,hate-FILLED, stupid DAMNyankees.), as we are ALL "on to your game".

otoh, you don't mind being seen as a LIAR. after all, that's what PROPAGANDISTS do for a living. furthermore, for the PROPAGANDIST, truth is whatever serves their cause. AND being exposed as a LIAR on one subject simply means that the propagandists makes OTHER equally STUPID/dishonest accusations and/or LIES again, on a different subject.

free dixie,sw

325 posted on 04/19/2009 12:13:55 PM PDT by stand watie (Resistance to TYRANTS is OBEDIENCE to God. T. Jefferson, 1804)
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To: Non-Sequitur
Every inch of it.

Every inch of it is not worth it. Especially anywhere you live. I wouldn't trade one drop of blood to help CA and NE. I am not a fascist, like you. I am a pacifist, a well armed and highly trained one :). I actually think "those people" (ala Gen. Lee) deserve their socialist utopia USSA. All I ask is a portion of this entire continent not have to go down the collective toilet with them. A peaceful secession, not to hard to understand. Why should somebody from the South, knowing how well the North treated them the last time, give a /deleted/.

326 posted on 04/19/2009 12:28:00 PM PDT by central_va (Co. C, 15th Va., Patrick Henry Rifles-The boys of Hanover Co.)
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To: Non-Sequitur
If Obama ever sinks to that level then you have my permission to rebel.

We will NEVER need anyone's permission!

327 posted on 04/19/2009 12:45:00 PM PDT by 4CJ (Annoy a liberal, honour Christians and our gallant Confederate dead)
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To: stand watie; Non-Sequitur
swattie, I think you do it on purpose. You act like an idiot so that when people put you down for it, you can attack them and people will feel sorry for you.

don't you get tired of being ridiculed as a DUNCE by most FReepers???? also, LOTS of FReepers just want everyone, who is a member of "The DAMNyankee Coven of Fools, Bigots, Nitwits & HATERS", to LEAVE www.freerepublic.com, forever, with the singular exception of your "dear leader", N-S.

non, sounds like somebody has a crush on you ... What gives?

328 posted on 04/19/2009 12:55:03 PM PDT by x (stand watie -- countless contentless posts since 1999)
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To: Non-Sequitur
“No one is forcing you to stay. You Southron types have a long history of running and surrendering. Nobody expects any less from you now.”

You Northern types have a long history of sticking your nose in every ones business except your own. We only find that your nose has grown much larger!

Go ahead and stand with the murderers of the unborn,cowards,Marxist,Welfare pimps..I care not

Non-Sequitur,
I've never thought a man so opposed to slavery would want it for himself ?

329 posted on 04/19/2009 1:46:19 PM PDT by Rustabout
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To: Non-Sequitur
“Sure. Delta is ready when you are.”

Just a little more time Non-Sequitur & your have that opportunity to be that ‘hero’ you've dreamed about saving the ‘glorious union’..Right along side Zero and Harry Reid

Just be man enough to introduce yourself before you take to shooting women and children in the back this time..Okay?

330 posted on 04/19/2009 2:05:28 PM PDT by Rustabout
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To: 4CJ
We will NEVER need anyone's permission!

Yes y'all are constantly revolting as it is. Let's just say that I won't stand in your way then. OK?

331 posted on 04/19/2009 2:58:27 PM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: central_va
I'm well versed in what the Federal Monster led by a ruthless butcher can do to a group of states that tries to "come and go as they please".

You're up to your eyebrows in Southron mythology, yes.

I read it in horror...

Read it in horror? Read what? Specifics, please. How about some of your sources? As many myths have have been propagated by the lost causers, few attract as many as Sherman's fall 1864 campaign. I had one of you try to tell me, in perfect seriousness, that Sherman salted farm fields from Atlanta to Savannah and that you could still see the sterile land from space. You got anything as colorful as that?

... but you probably get aroused studying the "Torches" Atlanta campaign.

You are a strange individual, aren't you?

332 posted on 04/19/2009 3:04:23 PM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: stand watie
otoh, you don't mind being seen as a LIAR. after all, that's what PROPAGANDISTS do for a living. furthermore, for the PROPAGANDIST, truth is whatever serves their cause. AND being exposed as a LIAR on one subject simply means that the propagandists makes OTHER equally STUPID/dishonest accusations and/or LIES again, on a different subject.

Oh shut up and just post the damned page number.

333 posted on 04/19/2009 3:05:32 PM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: central_va
I am not a fascist, like you.

Of course you're not.

334 posted on 04/19/2009 3:08:56 PM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: x; All
to ALL: once more, "x" illustrates WHY almost everyone on FR (or at least those, who have bothered to read his hate-FILLED, ignorant,BILGE!), thinks that the space between his ears is "vacant & available for long-term lease".

to "x":laughing AT you.

free dixie,sw

335 posted on 04/19/2009 3:23:56 PM PDT by stand watie (Resistance to TYRANTS is OBEDIENCE to God. T. Jefferson, 1804)
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To: MortMan

I would not trust anything that comes out of DC. They are a bunch of nuts doing their best to completely destroy this country.


336 posted on 04/19/2009 3:28:29 PM PDT by MamaB (Heb.13:2)
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To: Non-Sequitur
fwiw, every post you utter on this forum means that LESS people believe you.

perhaps you should post MORE, as your DECEIT/EVASIVENESS/HATEFULNESS converts "neutrals" into "southern-leaning people" & "southerners" into "southrons".

every southerner who becomes a "southron" advances the TRUE CAUSE of dixie LIBERTY.

face it, N-S, you are NOT believed by anyone EXCEPT brain-DEAD south-HATERS/lunatics/BIGOTS.

free dixie,sw

337 posted on 04/19/2009 3:31:02 PM PDT by stand watie (Resistance to TYRANTS is OBEDIENCE to God. T. Jefferson, 1804)
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To: MamaB; All
we of the "red zone" have our crooks/fools/bigots/shysters in DC, but i would (if pushed) accept the VERY worst of them over the likes of obama/kennedy/schumer/biden/dodd/frank/snow/feinstein & others of that ilk.

the congress-critters sent to DC by the "blue states" are, TODAY, almost all FILTH/traitors/WEIRDOS/pinkos/baby-MURDERERS/socialists/FASCISTS.

free dixie,sw

338 posted on 04/19/2009 3:39:53 PM PDT by stand watie (Resistance to TYRANTS is OBEDIENCE to God. T. Jefferson, 1804)
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To: stand watie
the congress-critters sent to DC by the "blue states" are, TODAY, almost all FILTH/traitors/WEIRDOS/pinkos/baby-MURDERERS/socialists/FASCISTS.

You are much nicer than me. Just say Yankee; it's simpler and to the point and encompasses all of your above colorful denigration...

339 posted on 04/19/2009 4:02:03 PM PDT by central_va (Co. C, 15th Va., Patrick Henry Rifles-The boys of Hanover Co.)
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To: Non-Sequitur
You are a strange individual, aren't you?

Not as strange as the Constitutional wife beater attitude of the Northern Yankee towards any secessionist.

340 posted on 04/19/2009 4:10:09 PM PDT by central_va (Co. C, 15th Va., Patrick Henry Rifles-The boys of Hanover Co.)
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