Posted on 04/16/2009 6:50:11 AM PDT by rrdog
What is the root of the secessionist movement? The driving force at the grass roots level is of course money. Many Americans are rightly disturbed by the transfer of their wealth, and the wealth of their children, to companies that made risky investments, or were poorly managed. This is new territory for the government. The transfer started under George W. Bush with his bank bailout and auto makers bailouts, and the Obama administration has really poured on the spending with additional bailouts and stimulus packages. Citizens of more fiscally conservative states are finding that there money is being redirected from their pockets, and sent to other states.
In years past politicians from both parties have used the guilt factor to increase spending for the "needy". This tempers the backlash from the populace as they realize they are to sacrifice a new boat, or nicer home, for the greater good of society. Today, citizens are being asked to sacrifice their children's education, vacations, and even the home they are in, so that money can be transferred from their wallets to multi-billion dollar corporations.
When we add more government controls and regulations on everything from cigarettes, to fast food and guns, we begin to see the problem. Government is now coming at everyone at some level, over some issue. This piling on is causing those fringe secessionist movements to became mainstream very quickly.
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of course, you likely LIED about that TOO, as you have so many other times on countless posts. (if you said it was NOON, most people would look at their watch to see if it was MIDNIGHT.)
laughing AT you, LIAR.
free dixie,sw
What Bubba says about you is the truth. What time is it, mortimer?
If a crime conviction carries the loss of civil Rights..Then I'm fine with that as long as they are returned by ‘expungment’ or other methods..As for this absolute stuff..If we allow them to start dictating other than serious violant crimes..That is one slippery slope
**Only for the duration of the TRO.**
Still no finding of guilt..Anyone can accuse and these courts are more than happy to grant
**Do you have a similar problem with a man convicted of beating his wife half to death being banned from gun ownership? If not, fine. We disagree. If so, then there's a line somewhere between spanking your kids and beating your wife half to death.**
If it was serious then it would be a Felony..Not a misdemeanor..Furthermore many police after OJ just toss the book at you..It has become a political crime..The problem with this ‘DV’ law is it disarms people who never lost their civil rights ‘felony’ and they paid a fine..Ten years later after buying several bird guns..now they have a possible Federal crime placed upon them because of this minor screaming match..
**But up above you were saying that New York's gun laws were reason enough to expel them from the union.**
That's just one
What will happen to states like North Carolina, Ohio, Pennysvlanvia and Florida? They are split right in the middle between both camps.
FReepers of NORMAL IQ just laugh AT him & RIDICULE him "behind his back", as he has told so many LIES, about so many things, that he cannot remember WHO that he told WHICH knowing LIE to. (i ridicule him "to his face.")
you are certainly DUMB & clue-LESS enough to be one of his "fans". (maybe he'll make you president of his fan club. "DUH,snake" can be VP.)
laughing AT the 3 of you.
free dixie,sw
“Yeah, yeah, yeah. It’s very telling that the part of the Cherokee leadership that supported the rebel cause was that slave-owning segment that so strongly supported the treaties that uprooted the Cherokee in the first place and sent them down the Southern backed ‘Trail of Tears’.”
You are way over your head here, NS, and really don’t know what you’re talking about. It would be nice wouldn’t it, if history could really be wrapped up in such an explanation?
Spend some time walking in others shoes, instead of standing in judgment of things you know nothing of.
One last comment, then I’m not coming back to this thread. What is amazing is that you all STILL want to fight the Civil War...a war that should have never happened and BOTH sides were to blame. This, “ I hate the North, I hate the South” is just stupid. What about the southerners who died and fought for the Union? What about the northerners who supported the ‘south’?
It’s insane! But stay stuck there and see how far it gets us!
General Ely S. Parker, a member of the Seneca tribe,
drew up the articles of surrender
which General Robert E. Lee
signed at Appomattox Court House on April 9, 1865.
Gen. Parker, who served as Gen. Ulysses S. Grant’s
military secretary was an educated attorney who was once
rejected for Union military service because of his race.
At the meeting, Gen. Lee was at first taken aback
at the presence of an Indian being in such a position.
After he got to know Parker,
Lee is said to have remarked to him,
“I am glad to see one real American here.”
Parker replied, “We are all Americans.”
It doesn’t surprise me that, as big a bigot as you are, you wouldn’t believe anything outside of your incredibly narrow focus. Rather, you remain doggedly knee-jerk (emphasis on the JERK) in your pursuit of invincible ignorance.
It does amuse me that you admit your cowardice on a public forum.
Don’t go changing chuckles...
otoh, IF you believe ANYTHING that "bubba, THE LIAR" posts, you are in the running for "LEAST INTELLIGENT".
free dixie,sw
Thanks for the acknowledgment that normal discourse goes totally over your pointed head...
laughing AT you.
free dixie,sw
I can’t help it if even the simplest of words flies over your head swattie. You might try B-complex vitamins but I fear that you are too dim a wattage bulb to do much in terms of rectification.
as you KNOW "family" is important to AIs/southerners. (there have even been "nasty comments" made, over the years, by some of the south-HATERS here about my late wife, VK, because she was Native.)
free dixie,sw
“i do NOT speak for the rest of the “dixie folk” on FR”
I’m not a ‘dixie folk’. I’m an American. And even Stand Watie knew when to quit fighting. There was more peacemaker in the man than warrior. It’s 150 years past time the Civil war stopped being fought. We better start learning to stand together, or we will surely all go down together. And color, race,northerner or southerner won’t matter one whit.
Wow. That dodge sure didn’t work so well for ya squattie
SADLY, i do NOT foresee GOOD THINGS AHEAD for The Republic, as more & more our FREEDOMS (even those enumerated in the BOR!) are being taken away by the federal government.
that's just my opinion.
free dixie,sw
” SADLY, i do NOT foresee GOOD THINGS AHEAD for The Republic, as more & more our FREEDOMS (even those enumerated in the BOR!) are being taken away by the federal government.
that’s just my opinion.”
That’s a fact, sw. But to stop it, you’re going to need those ‘damned Yankees’. Better find a way to work with them, and them with you. This ‘tribal’ thinking gets us divided and conquered. All we have today is factions, not a country. And it’s not by accident.
Governments by nature are messy and oppressive. The Confederacy was as well. There was plenty of blame to go around on both sides. The Confederacy abandoned the Cherokee.
“Shall I continue to encourage them,
or shall I at once unveil to them the dread truth
that our country is to be hopelessly abandoned,
and that they are to receive
the reward of poverty and ruin
for their unswerving fidelity to the Southern cause?”
Letter to S.S.Scott, Confederate Commissioner of Indian Affairs
from Brig.Gen.Stand Watie Aug.8, 1864
remember, ONLY 10-15% of the northern population are DAMNyankees. (DAMNyankees are SELF-impressed,sanctimonious, STATIST in outlook,filled with prejudice & HATE, believe themselves to be "naturally superior" to the rest of the population & generally would make POOR allies, if not in fact ENEMIES of freedom.
remember, ONLY 10-15% of the northern population are DAMNyankees. (DAMNyankees are SELF-impressed,sanctimonious, STATIST in outlook,filled with prejudice & HATE, believe themselves to be "naturally superior" to the rest of the population & generally would make POOR allies, if not in fact ENEMIES of freedom.
free dixie,sw
I haven’t seen a PING yet regarding the request made...to clear things up. (waiting)
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