So the only thing that evaporates out of tanks with
“bad seals” is ethanol???????????Silly.
If you can find out what gas and ethanol is now you
can find out what it was when gas was 4 bucks.
Granted ethanol is slightly cheaper than no-tax
price of gas, right now, but that is because the plants
are still working with corn bought at twice the price
they have stored. When new corn come in this year
at have of the high price then ethanol will be down
more, maybe a buck. They are not going to shut the
plants down if it is possible to run them in anyway as
the million of lbs of high protein feed are still needed
for help in raising our meat.
And another point the milk price to farmers is been
halved which means the farmer will milk less, ship more
corn into markets, maybe depressing prices more(don’t
hurt me), and will depress all farm prices.
But if prices driven too low by all this hoopla
then gov/you/me will be back to paying price supports
to farmers, many times more than the tax credit
that greedy big oil gets. Then you will really holler.
Most corn was raised with tractors burning diesel.
On farm use all energy to raise all of the food, fiber,
ethanol, etc was less than 6% of the total energy
used in this country, so the crap argument that it
cost more to raise it is bogus.
I paid a high the dollar of
over 4 bucks last year. Diesel at same stations
was over 5 bucks. What is charged is the proof.
To prove gas would cost as much as diesel without
ethanol sitting in storage ready to use, is the
fact that it was easier to refine diesel out of oil,
thus it was cheaper years ago, and there is no
surplus supply of anything in storage to help
diesel supply like the ethanol does for gas.
Just the physical evidence, one has an extra supply
of decent size to help it and one doesn’t, and the one
that does is cheaper. It isn’t as big a price spread now
with overall prices lower, but it was quite a difference
during the time of real high prices.
The physical evidence of ethanol plants helping one(gas)
with lower prices at the pump, that I can see, and
the other(diesel) with no other industry or plants to help
much, is higher at the pump, that I can see,
is the common sense proof.Ed
Wrong. You don't know ethanol has a higher vapor pressure than gasoline?
If you can find out what gas and ethanol is now you can find out what it was when gas was 4 bucks.
Sorry, I couldn't find proof of your claim.
Granted ethanol is slightly cheaper than no-tax price of gas, right now
More expensive.
The physical evidence of ethanol plants helping one(gas) with lower prices at the pump
Ethanol is more expensive now. I remember last year, it was a lot more expensive. Plus the tax credit costs us billions. I don't see cheaper and you've still shown no proof.
You really think ethanol will cost $1/gallon or less? How many ethanol plants would have been built (or will survive) with that forecast?
They are not going to shut the plants down if it is possible to run them in anyway as the million of lbs of high protein feed are still needed for help in raising our meat.
"Needed"? Unless I'm missing something, the only reason that high-protein feed is being fed to livestock today is because it's a cheap byproduct (waste) of the ethanol mfg process. It's a way for the ethanol plants to recoup a portion of their cost. It's akin to a coal-fired power plant selling cinders. Much like the demand for cinders will never be enough to keep a power plant open, the 'demand' for that 'feed' is not going to keep ethanol plants running. When ethanol production is not profitable, corn is fed to the livestock.
At any rate, when I pull into a gas station, I get to choose between E10 or straight gasoline. (Unlike Minnesota, we have no ethanol mandate here in Iowa.) In my experience, E10 delivers about 95% of the MPG of gasoline. Therefore, when E10 is priced at least 5% less than gasoline, I buy it. Otherwise, I don't.
Soon, I expect demand to cause the price of gasoline to climb well past $2/gallon again. If E10 continues to track only 10¢/gallon (< 5%) under, I'll be switching back to gasoline. Some people say I should 'do my part' and keep using E10 to reduce our reliance on foreign oil, support my local farmers, etc. But, when I weigh all the variables, I conclude there are much more sensible ways to get away from foreign oil than to attempt to replace it with ethanol, and I'm already 'doing my part' by living only 2 miles from work and putting only ~10K total per year on my relatively fuel-efficient cars. Regarding supporting my local farmers, I figure my elected officials are doing plenty of that with my tax dollars; further diverting 10% of my meager fuel budget would be nothing more than a feel-good gesture.