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Poor New Yorkers getting paid for good behavior
Associated Press ^ | April 21, 2009 | Sara Kugler

Posted on 04/24/2009 9:19:22 AM PDT by reaganaut1

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To: reaganaut1

Bloomberg at his best.


21 posted on 04/24/2009 9:43:16 AM PDT by b4its2late (Ignorance allows liberalism to prosper.)
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To: Oldexpat
As long as this is privately funded,,I have no complaint, but in reality is the charity receiving money from the Govt to perform charity?

Don't know. The article only said private money was being used for the program. For all I know, Mayor Bloomberg may be fronting his personal money for the program. Seven million would be pocket change for him.

The demographics are killing us. More kids born to single parents..fewer parents with education and skills raising kids. More people with the knowledge and motivation to get money for nothing.

Same problem in the US. We have no more than 10 years to do something substantive about it.

The only cure may be a generation of real poverty...a real depression. Looks like that is coming again in the UK.

If we're lucky.

22 posted on 04/24/2009 9:45:04 AM PDT by fso301
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Bloomberg at his best.

But what do the Taxpayers get for this? What good does it do other than to keep folks on the Dole?

23 posted on 04/24/2009 9:45:44 AM PDT by sr4402
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yeah my helping hand is one that says get a job you slob and no more free food and housing, that is incentive for most people to work, when they have an empty feeling in their stomach, they will work. the old and disabled eccepted.

maybe all welfare should be like this. privately funded, and dependant on behavoir.


24 posted on 04/24/2009 9:49:01 AM PDT by dhm914
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To: reaganaut1

Talk about a nanny-state. Does the mayor give these 18 to 80 year old “children” a pat on the head, some milk and cookies, and a loving “good boy/girl” with their cash?


25 posted on 04/24/2009 9:55:31 AM PDT by Above My Pay Grade
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Looks like some Soros money as well 0_0

http://www.weeklystandard.com/Content/Public/Articles/000/000/013/824jrzop.asp


26 posted on 04/24/2009 10:05:13 AM PDT by happinesswithoutpeace (You are receiving this broadcast as a dream)
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To: sr4402

Zip, Zero, Nada.


27 posted on 04/24/2009 10:05:19 AM PDT by b4its2late (Ignorance allows liberalism to prosper.)
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To: fso301; Oldexpat

Currently these are privately-funded pilot plans, but I read in an earlier NYT article that the goal is to expand the programs that “work” using tax money.


28 posted on 04/24/2009 10:08:42 AM PDT by reaganaut1
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I am working with a committee to look at jail recidivism in our county. In a poll taken over a 24 hour period of time, 98 prisoners represented more than 500 past stints in jail. Many were substance abusers and almost all had histories of relatives who also served time in jail or prison.

Many of these are also in the same families that social service and welfare serves. A large number when tested, have a functional equivalent of a fifth grade education, even though they may have graduated from high school.

Increasingly, our county money is going to provide legally required mental health treatment in the jail.

How is government going to turn this around? How is government and the community going to keep another generation from following this path? We have learned from the past that ignoring the problem only makes it grow in size and severity. The resources these families take to deal with bad behaviors and the violence that slops over into criminal activity has become a serious problem impacting our ability to serve the general public with services such as libraries.

We are trying to cobble together an in-jail individual needs assessment and school to provide classes in parenting, anger management, managing money, life skills etc. (These will be through mini contracts with non-profits or local schools that already do this.) Then have each inmate have a plan to continue with non-profit or faith based programs in literacy, GED or college tech., sober living, etc. upon release. We will also have former inmates who have successfully re-entered act as mentors.

We will track to see if this intervention has an impact. The punative approach is not working. We have a six month waiting list to get into our jail to serve sentences and a lot of early releases. We also have a violence level for cases such as assault, which are greater than L.A. (We are a small rural county.)


29 posted on 04/24/2009 10:23:40 AM PDT by marsh2
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These are the same people who don’t pay taxes and who qualify for Earned Income Credit, so they’re already getting “free” money from the government.


30 posted on 04/24/2009 11:15:53 AM PDT by Hoffer Rand (There ARE two Americas: "God's children" and the tax payers)
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To: dhm914
yeah my helping hand is one that says get a job you slob and no more free food and housing, that is incentive for most people to work, when they have an empty feeling in their stomach, they will work. the old and disabled eccepted.

maybe all welfare should be like this. privately funded, and dependant on behavoir.

That's fine in a environment where a person at least spent formative years exposed to principles of responsible living.

In can also work well in an environment where such behavior is the exception rather than the norm.

For those who didn't grow up with such examples or, who are in environments surrounded by lousy examples, the bootstraps approach doesn't work well as such have paths of crime and delinquency that seem far easier and more natural to them.

31 posted on 04/24/2009 11:23:12 AM PDT by fso301
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