Posted on 05/05/2009 6:14:34 AM PDT by AmericanHunter
From time to time, a few members of Congressas many as 10, sometimes fewergather with Rep. Ron Paul (R-Tex.) to eat lunch and hear from an author or expert whose opinion he thinks is worth promoting. They grab something to eat off of a deli plate. They take notes. They loosen up and ask questions.
Its not all that easy for the other members to get here, said Paul in an interview with TWI, sitting just outside of his office before heading back to Texas for a few days. Its just that theres so much competition. Once they get here and they get going, they all seem to enjoy it.
A funny thing has started happening to Paul since his long-shot presidential campaign ended quietly in the summer of 2008. More Republicans have started listening to him. There are the media requests from Fox Business and talk radio where hes given airtime to inveigh on sound money and macroeconomics. There is HR 1207 , the Federal Reserve Transparency Act of 2009, a bill that would launch an audit of the Federal Reserve System, and which has attracted 112 co-sponsors. When Paul introduced the Federal Reserve Board Abolition Act just two years ago, no other members of Congress signed on.
And then there are the luncheons. The off-the-record talks have brought in speakers such as ex-CIA counterterrorism expert Michael Scheuer, libertarian investigative reporter James Bovard, iconoclastic terrorism scholar Robert Pape, and George Washington University law professor Jonathan Turley. Perhaps the most influential guest has been Thomas Woods, a conservative scholar whose previous books include The Politically Incorrect Guide to American History and Who Killed the Constitution?: The Fate of American Liberty from World War I to George W. Bush, and whose current book Meltdown has inspired Rep. Michele Bachmann (R-Minn.) to question Fed Chairman Ben Bernanke and Treasury Secretary Tim Geithner about economic fundamentals.
Pauls unexpected and sudden clout with his fellow Republicans even some of Pauls staff have been surprised with the momentum of his Audit the Fed bill come as the GOP engages in a tortured internal dialogue about its future. Since January, no small number of new coalitions have formed between current members of Congress, former advisors to President George W. Bush, and perennial party leaders such as former Gov. Mitt Romney (R-Mass.) and former Gov. Jeb Bush (R-Fla.). Few of those conservatives, however, have spent much time criticizing the very foundations of Americas modern economic system and worrying about a 1929-style crash. Few of them had a drawer stuffed with off-brand economic ideas and forgotten libertarian texts, ready to explain what needed to be done. Ron Paul did, and as a result the ideas that made the Republican establishment irate enough to bounce him from a few primary debates are more popular than ever.
Theres a growing recognition that the GOP is intellectually bankrupt and morally bankrupt, explained Bovard. Most of these Republican rebranding efforts amount to a group of overpaid consultants getting detached from reality, but Im glad that Paul is putting together these meetings. I hope the battle of ideas is changing.
The success of Pauls events, however under-the-radar, have been a pleasant surprise for the experts. Ill admit it, said Thomas Woods. I was dead wrong in my first reaction when I heard Ron talking about the Fed on the campaign trail. I said, This is too complicated for most Americans. This isnt going to galvanize people. I was wrong! Hes taken an issue that wasnt even an issue, and hes got a lot of Americans suddenly fascinated by the Fed, by monetary policy, by the Austrian business cycle theory, economic ideas promoted by thinkers like Ludwig von Mises and Murray Rothbard that blame central banks for painful business cycles.
Since his congressional comeback in 1996 after a long stint as a Libertarian Party politician, and after only narrowly defeating a Democrat-turned-Republican that Newt Gingrichs Republican leadership supported Paul has maintained a small circle of allies in Congress. Some of them, like Rep. Walter Jones (R-N.C.), are regular guests at the expert luncheons. But the most prominent new face is Bachmann, the rising conservative star who left C-Span and YouTube watchers scratching their heads with a grilling on the Constitution that seemed to puzzle Geithner. What provision in the Constitution could you point to to give authority for the actions that have been taken by the Treasury since March of 08? asked Bachmann during a hearing on March 24. What in the Constitution could you point to to give authority to the Treasurys extraordinary actions that have been taken?
Bachmann goes to these luncheons on a weekly basis, said Debbee Keller, Bachmanns press secretary. Keller noted that Bachmann was reading Meltdown, which argues that the New Deal failed and that the Federal Reserve is responsible for the current economic crisis. Just as Austrian theory suggests, wrote Woods, the Feds mischief was responsible for the Great Depression.
I had a feeling shed have some interest in the book, said Woods, because she asked some good questions. She was taking notes. She was asking if this or that point could be found in the book. I thought I recognized a sincere person who wanted knowledge, not the usual politician who couldnt care less about what the truth is and just wanted to propagandize.
Paul didnt take credit for turning Bachmann on to Austrian theory (Hell give credit to everyone on the planet except himself, laughed Woods) but said he was pleased to see more members of Congress delving into economics. Shes very open to studying, said Paul. In fact, shes been working really hard to get me back to Minneapolis. She says, Youll get such a great reception there!
Pauls other influence has reached further across the aisle. Since he introduced the Federal Reserve Transparency Act of 2009, he has locked in the support of a majority of the Republican conference as well as 13 Democrats, for a bill that would mandate an audit of the Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve System and the Federal reserve banks before the end of 2010 to reveal how the board makes it decisions and moves around money. As Congressman Paul pointed [out] many times, said freshman Rep. Alan Grayson (D-Fla.) after co-sponsoring the bill, the Federal Reserve should have come clean with the American people a long time ago. The Fed is disbursing trillions of dollars and the taxpayers have a right to know who is getting it.
Its been a rapid rise for an idea that, only months ago, was located firmly in the political fringe. The John Birch Society, the far-right group that Paul has often defended from media criticism, was one of the first groups to encourage members to contact their members of Congress to support an audit of the Fed. Pauls own coalition, the Campaign for Liberty, has engaged in a months-long grassroots campaign for the bill, something that Paul credited for a surge in support unlike anything hes introduced in his second stint in Congress.
People today are clamoring for transparency, said Paul, and there is more awareness of the Federal Reserve. I do think it has something to do with the focus we put on this during the campaign. Its not so much that Im personally converting people, its that weve got people at the grassroots converting their members of Congress. Rep. Zach Wamp (R-Tenn.), a conservative who is running for governor of Tennessee next year, has told Paul that his support for the Fed audit and his condemnation of a Missouri law enforcement policy to watch out for cars with Ron Paul bumper stickers get some of his loudest, most positive reactions on the campaign trail.
Paul has remained surprised and bemused at his new influence. I was talking with one of the other Republicans on the floor, he remembered, one of the types that had been voting with Bush, for big spending and all of that. I asked him: Are you voting with me now or am I voting with you? They just laugh. They know what the situation is.
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Capitalism is most certainly not state supported monopolies, price and wage controls, centrally managed money and credit, protective tariffs, heavy regulation and taxation, redistribution based on egalitarianism, etc.
Well said. The system is so warped now that we have over regulation of the financial markets to protect from the excessive risk taking made sensible by the moral hazards created by explicit (as well as implicit) government backed insurance against failure. Now we've added another moral hazard - too big to fail - which will in turn require additional regulation, and so on...
And each step of the way, each additional handcuff on the market here, opens the door for any competitors moving TOWARDS more market oriented economies to kick our rears in the global marketplace.
But we are supposed to accept that "Toddster" knows best -- and that's your argument?
Stupid politicians pandering to stupid voters. Yup. Stupid.
in short, the very people with whom that audit is to be shared who believe that they don't know enough of the Fed's operations, and are demanding to know more.
In questioning today, Ben told Ron he'd be happy to give Congress more info on their balance sheet, loans, etc. But the Fed's independence to perform monetary policy shouldn't be changed. Then Ron said, the policy was the only important thing.
So much for the audit uncovering anything important. Even Ron knows it won't, wouldn't, can't.....
So did RP and the other 11 sponsors withdraw the Audit the Fed bill? No? Then what a crock!
111, not 11
Why would they? It makes people think they're doing something!
We're going to find out the bad things the sneaky Fed is doing to ruin the country (Shhhh, don't look at what Congress did to ruin the country).
OK, I might have to adjust my opinion of Ron Paul. I’ll pay more attention to him in future.
Regularly isn't the question. Honestly is the question. And after all the shenanigans about cooking the books to boost the bonuses, I find it hard to think that the audits were honest.
Congress might have set it up to be independent, but that doesn't make it constitutional, which is where most Ron Paul positions come from.
The Federal Reserve is cooking their books to boost bonuses?
Congress might have set it up to be independent, but that doesn't make it constitutional
What's unconstitutional, the Fed or its independence?
which is where most Ron Paul positions come from.
Grandstanding is where most of his positions come from.
Ron Paul has previously sponsored bills to end the Federal Reserve, so the idea that he's doing a wink, wink with Bernanke is ridiculous. I saw the same discussion you did. It's here.. "Policy is the only important thing" was the last thing RP said and it sounded a lot more tongue-in-cheek to me than a real agreement.
Who thought he was doing a wink wink? He says he wants an audit. An audit looks at numbers. He doesn't want to see numbers. He wants to end the Fed.
His idea for an audit is a joke and a lie.
"Policy is the only important thing" was the last thing RP said and it sounded a lot more tongue-in-cheek to me than a real agreement.
Who thought there was real agreement? He wants input into monetary policy decisions. He's not going to get that.
He surely deserves another look see. I will be watching this very carefully in the future.
If you can’t add to the conversation please just go away. You make me ill.
“Congress set up the Fed to be independent.”
I wasn’t aware that Congress had the power to delegate the authority to coin money and issue credit to anyone else, let alone a private central bank such as the Fed.
“Toddsterpatriot”
LOL!
***His idea for an audit is a joke and a lie.***
Wanting to end the fed and know its operations (the parts exempted from the current audits) are not 2 mutually exclusive things.
***He wants input into monetary policy decisions.***
He doesn’t want a monetary policy except that determined by the market.
***I wasnt aware that Congress had the power to delegate the authority to coin money and issue credit to anyone else, let alone a private central bank such as the Fed.***
Haven’t you heard? Anything the Congress does is Constitutional because of the Supremacy Clause.
i lurnd al abowt it n skewl.
Pictures speak volumes. It is you who add nothing.
I noticed.
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