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Chrysler Creditors Lose Fight For Secrecy (Bankruptcy judge sides with Obama)
Forbes ^ | 5/5/09 | Liz Moyer

Posted on 05/05/2009 3:18:06 PM PDT by jimbo123

They have been vilified on message boards and called greedy speculators, criminals and vultures. President Obama says he "does not stand with them." They have received death threats. They're the hedge funds opposed to the Chrysler reorganization, who desperately tried to keep their identities secret to all but the federal bankruptcy court judge overseeing the case.

But the judge, Arthur Gonzalez, isn't buying it. Tuesday, he ruled that the group had until 10 a.m. Wednesday to reveal their identities. The group, which describes itself as the group of creditors that did not have to take federal bailout money under the Troubled Asset Relief program, is trying to block the Obama administration's proposed reorganization of Chrysler.

In court documents Tuesday, attorneys for the so-called "non-TARP" creditors, who own $300 million of secured debt, said intensifying pressure and name calling by the government threatened to harm them if their identities became public.

The Chrysler non-TARP lenders are afraid," the court documents say. They cannot argue against the proposed bankruptcy "if that means being subjected to heavy-handed tactics that will threaten their business and safety."

(Excerpt) Read more at forbes.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Government; News/Current Events; US: Michigan
KEYWORDS: automakers; bankruptcy; bho44; chrysler; michigan; obamunism; second100days; socialistblitzkrieg; tarp
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1 posted on 05/05/2009 3:18:06 PM PDT by jimbo123
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To: jimbo123

Did Don Zero lean on the judge?


2 posted on 05/05/2009 3:20:47 PM PDT by cripplecreek (The poor bastards have us surrounded.)
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To: jimbo123

Bankruptcy files are public records. Sealing these guys’ identities would be highly, highly unusual. I don’t read anything into this decision.


3 posted on 05/05/2009 3:21:07 PM PDT by colorado tanker ("Lastly, I'd like to apologize for America's disproportionate response to Pearl Harbor . . . ")
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To: jimbo123
Obama Won! Didn't these guys get the memo? The government just told the courts what to do after telling Chrysler what to do and you are complaining? You wanna be next? Just take what they tell you and be quiet.

No? You wanna keep it up? Well, this government will just go ahead and slander you as well. We'll tell the whole world who the greedy SOBs are that caused all of this. Go ahead, keep it up, Hedgefund Guy. You ever hear of the I-R-S?

4 posted on 05/05/2009 3:25:38 PM PDT by Tenacious 1 (We may officially be too stupid to govern ourselves.)
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To: colorado tanker

I agree with you, BTW. It does amaze me though. Americans in growing numbers are afraid of our government....and apparently for some good reason.


5 posted on 05/05/2009 3:26:33 PM PDT by Tenacious 1 (We may officially be too stupid to govern ourselves.)
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To: SeaDragon; TheGrimReaper

(sigh)


6 posted on 05/05/2009 3:27:54 PM PDT by RikaStrom (Bitter? Who me? Nah, I'm just clinging to my guns!)
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To: Tenacious 1
Hedgefund Guy. You ever hear of the I-R-S?

Ouch. Makes me kind of miss Bill Clinton....shudder.

7 posted on 05/05/2009 3:28:07 PM PDT by King Moonracer (Bad lighting and cheap fabric, that's how you sell clothing.)
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To: Tenacious 1
Submit to The Kenyan or else...


8 posted on 05/05/2009 3:28:17 PM PDT by jimbo123
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To: jimbo123

This brownshirt stuff had better stop and awfully go**amned fast.


9 posted on 05/05/2009 3:29:03 PM PDT by RightOnline
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To: jimbo123

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http://hotair.com/archives/2009/05/05/lauria-allegations-of-threats-corroborated/

Creditors to Chrysler describe negotiations with the company and the Obama administration as “a farce,” saying the administration was bent on forcing their hands using hardball tactics and threats.

Conversations with administration officials left them expecting that they would be politically targeted, two participants in the negotiations said. …

The sources, who represent creditors to Chrysler, say were taken aback by the hardball tactics that the Obama administration employed to cajole them into acquiescing to plans to restructure Chrysler. One person said described the administration as the most shocking “end justifies the means” group they have ever encountered. Another characterized Obama was “the most dangerous smooth talker on the planet- and I knew Kissinger.” Both were voters for Obama in the last election.

One participant in negotiations said that the administration’s tactic was to present what one described as a “madman theory of the presidency” in which the President is someone to be feared because he was willing to do anything to get his way. The person said this threat was taken very seriously by his firm.


10 posted on 05/05/2009 3:31:13 PM PDT by roses of sharon (Pray Hussein fails!)
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To: Tenacious 1
It does amaze me though. Americans in growing numbers are afraid of our government....and apparently for some good reason.

Only those who anger The Leader by not placing the interests of The Fatherland ahead of their own need be fearful.

Seriously, though, you are right and it is very disturbing. I couldn't believe my ears when I heard Zero express anger at the Chrysler holdouts. That's a private business negotiation in which government should have no role.

11 posted on 05/05/2009 3:32:03 PM PDT by colorado tanker ("Lastly, I'd like to apologize for America's disproportionate response to Pearl Harbor . . . ")
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To: colorado tanker

Agreed-You can’t have nameless parties in court records unless there is a very compelling reason such as nat’l security or minor or sex crime or the like. As much as these people may actually be threatened, w/o concrete proof of immediate danger, this was probably the correct ruling.


12 posted on 05/05/2009 3:35:53 PM PDT by Lou Budvis (Palin/Bachman '12 - The real men of the GOP.)
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To: colorado tanker

Like right out of Atlas Shrugged. Amazing.


13 posted on 05/05/2009 3:37:28 PM PDT by Chet 99
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To: jimbo123
"called greedy speculators"

I'll bet "greedy speculators" pay a whole heck of a lot in TAXES....or they did....payback is gonna be a b*tch

14 posted on 05/05/2009 3:37:36 PM PDT by goodnesswins (WE have a REPUBLIC.....IF we can KEEP IT!!!)
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To: Lou Budvis
w/o concrete proof of immediate danger,

Besides, if they are dead they can't spend the money.

15 posted on 05/05/2009 3:38:38 PM PDT by Dan(9698)
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To: jimbo123
What if the judge told Barry that he doesn't have "standing", and that he is using extra-Constitutional powers that are not within the penumbra of his pay grade?

Are the bond holders planning a class action suit?

16 posted on 05/05/2009 3:39:15 PM PDT by SERKIT ("Blazing Saddles" explains it all.....)
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To: jimbo123

The ACORN buses are warming up.


17 posted on 05/05/2009 3:39:41 PM PDT by pallis
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To: Dan(9698)
and the sound of silence from the masses is almost deafening
18 posted on 05/05/2009 3:40:29 PM PDT by shadeaud ("If you can't beat them, arrange to have them beaten." -- George Carlin st)
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To: pallis

I was thinking the same thing.


19 posted on 05/05/2009 3:41:10 PM PDT by cripplecreek (The poor bastards have us surrounded.)
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To: cripplecreek
I think we are seeing the power of the UAW Department of Enforcement at work. They do have a history of such.

I recall in the 70’s the Steelworkers trying to organize a local plant identified the leaders of the anti-union workers and then the threats started, with flat tires, burning or barns and out buildings, ball bearings shot from sling shots damaging windshields, etc.

It is part of organized labor's DNA.

20 posted on 05/05/2009 3:41:50 PM PDT by elpadre (Afganista)
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