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The left will not buy Romney's GOP rebranding. They demand total capitulation!
http://www.consortiumnews.com/2009/050509.html ^

Posted on 05/05/2009 6:31:59 PM PDT by Jim Robinson

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To: OnTheDress

I agree.
The left has carte blanc right now and can’t help themselves in over reaching. It will blow up in their faces and it will be very clear to all what the left stands for and what the consequences are.
If we prepare in unison instead of running around insulting each other, we will have a great oportunity for a big come back.


41 posted on 05/05/2009 9:18:08 PM PDT by broncobilly
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To: Jim Robinson
Here is where the author of that article is coming from based on what he has written. He is a socialist Obamatron. He used to work for AP and Newsweak.


Here is a short list of his recent writings

Right-Wingers Are Desperately Trying to Destroy Obama, and the Cowardly Corporate Media Are Helping
Posted on Apr 16, 2009

GOP Launching Smear Tactics Perfected During Clinton Years on Obama
Republicans seem incapable of coming up with any other strategy than to seek Obama’s destruction, much as they torpedoed Clinton.
Posted on Mar 3, 2009

Obama Throws Down the Gauntlet, Targets the “Very Wealthy”
To the American Right, those are fighting words, and leading conservatives are foaming at the mouth.
Posted on Mar 3, 2009

The GOP’s Filibuster Hypocrisy
When Republicans are in power “filibuster” is a dirty word, but when they're in the minority it's their favorite past time.
Posted on Feb 19, 2009

The Long and Bloody Hypocrisy of U.S.-Israeli Acts of Terrorism
Without an extreme double standard on terrorism, it's hard to see how today's bloodbath in Gaza would be possible.
Posted on Jan 5, 2009


I agree with going to a constitutional power thrust. The Republican party has been taken over by Rino globalist fascists. However, I have no respect for what this left wing kook opines and I know his dark intentions in advocating the end of the Republican party.

The author's intention in this article is to destroy the opposition to Marxists’ total power (Obama’s and the Democrat controlled Congress). His team, the Marxists only need 8 years of total power to totally end the constitution through UN treaties and install total socialism. With Rinos, they will criminalize conservative speech as they have done in Britain.

He knows the tea parties, if they come together in taking over the Republican party taking power and agenda away from the Rino establishment, are going to destroy his hope for Utopia and the Rinos who will gladly go along.

If the tea party majority comes together as a third party, we will be demonized by the media and undermined by National and State election machinery and he knows that. He's hoping we will split from the Republican Rino controlled party and leave the Marxists in total power as we wander in the desert. And he's right. We did that for 40 years before Reagan came along.


If we are going to demand Republicans and Bush take responsibility for what went wrong, conservatives need to point the finger at ourselves, too. Some of what has happened here is our own fault. We let the Rinos - especially McCain - control OUR party and appease us with a bone tossed our way (Supreme Court appointments, no UN treaties, no more taxes and no expanding baby killing.) Politics is not a spectator sport.

We conservatives have to take responsibility for what happened. We did not oversee Bush and our party's Rinos in other areas - the expansion of Federal power, larger budget and spending, no reform in the Federal government, no reform in health insurance problems, the patriot act's total Presidential power, corporate corruption, the war, the economy, constitutional protection, etc. We became brain dead one note protective Rino party nellies instead of creatively and intelligently running and steering the party agenda and machinery.

I don't know about others, but I am regretting not listening to Libertarians who were raising hell about the expansion of Federal power, the Patriot Act and the execution of the war. I regret that I did not speak up more about the Federal take over of local schools and the expansion of elderly health care into drug benefits (given the deficit spending). I regret not speaking out against Bush expanding paid political favors to religious social groups and I regret not demanding liberal groups be defunded.

I knew the real estate and debt “economy” was totally stupid. It only serves those who want a make believe global economy where China makes stuff and we buy it with fake real estate prices and debt. I did get involved in fighting against McCain's amnesty with open borders with those folks because they were organized. When I can I donate money to the pro-life workers. I have never felt comfortable with us being “the global leader” or “military superpower.” I want us super strong for self protection, but I am more comfortable when we are minding our own business in all areas of foreign relations. Our socialist allies are soft and nasty. We are too entwined with the business of other Nations. I could have come on here for Freeper help (or other places conservatives gather)in these other areas but I was lazy.

The only policy people who organize and act in the conservative movement are the pro-life and border folks. We need to change that and expand into all areas of reform if we want to take power from the unconstitutional globalist elite. It's us American citizens against these idiot “citizens of the world.”

Jim, here is a proposal of maybe what we can do on this web site. We can have different areas of discussion on reform like reform for health care, global economy reform, reform for budget/spending, foreign relations reform, reform for restoring constitutional government's division of power and individual rights, taxation reform, etc. Maybe we can invite folks to Free Republic who are experts on reform ideas that we think our fellow conservatives would appreciate or at least use as a launching point. We can be an reform idea incubator instead of just clever reactors. Who knows. Maybe our own American-American constitutional rich guy will come along to help Conservatives take over the party machinery and candidates like Soros helped the communist "citizens of the world" take over the Democrat Party.

42 posted on 05/05/2009 9:32:22 PM PDT by SaraJohnson
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To: broncobilly

We are united, we want to insure that a conservative emerges from all of these competitors and we want to cut the legs out from under the spoiler rino Mitt Romney.

Join us in our cause, help us keep that rino Romney out of the primary pool.


43 posted on 05/05/2009 9:37:39 PM PDT by ansel12 (Romney (guns)"instruments of destruction with the sole purpose of hunting down and killing people")
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To: ansel12
You don't seem to realize that that is the approach that gave us McCain last time, and therefore Obama.
Last time, the one we hoped for, Fred, couldn't get a good campaign going. So who is our fall back? Romney seemed to be doing well. However the “destroy Romney” activity started its work and he “had his legs cut out from under him.” So we got McCain. I would rather have Romney than McCain and certainly either more than Obama. But as a result we got Obama.
Sarah is great, but (if she runs)in the primary she could have a lot of “Kati Curic” moments. Or she may not have developed an organization. In which case she may fade away. In that case we had better have some other options on the back bench.
For that reason I feel that is wrong to spend time trying “to cut the legs out from under” anyone. That is an unChristian, a negative, and an undemocratic approach. And I think we will again pay a price for it if we follow it.
44 posted on 05/06/2009 12:24:01 AM PDT by broncobilly
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To: broncobilly
broncobilly (dedicated RomneyBOT): "You don't seem to realize that that is the approach that gave us McCain last time, and therefore Obama."

You are deluded. Obama resulted because of Spoiler Romney and "No one from Arizona can win" McCain.

"Romney Disses Palin Again - This Time by Proxy"
"Who's Mike Murphy? He's a Romney guy!
He's hated Palin from Day One...when she was announced as McCain's VP nominee,
he was the jerkwad on the air with Peggy Noonan when she made her infamous hot-mike disparaging remarks about Palin...
nd he himself was calling the Palin choice "gimmicky" and "cynical."
They never gave Palin a chance.
They had contempt for her and for the ordinary Americans she represents."

"Murphy is a Romney hack.
Although he worked for McCain in 2000, he switched to help Romney for the 2008 race.
He now works for Palin-deranged MSNBC as a token Republican."



Spoiler Romney attacks Gov. Palin:

"Peeking Out From the McCain Wreckage: Mitt Romney"

"Someone's got to say it: IS MITT ROMNEY RESPONSIBLE FOR OBAMA'S VICTORY?"

"Vanity: Team Romney Sabotaged Palin and Continuing to Do So?"

"Romney Supporters Trashing Palin"

"Romney advisors sniping at Palin?"


Poor sport spoiler Romney attacks other GOP candidatesn:

Novak: "Fred Thompson drop-out rumors traced to Romney campaign"

Said Novak: "The rumors were traced in part to Mitt Romney's campaign,
trying to stir up strife between McCain and Thompson
."

"Despite outspending his rivals by huge margins throughout the primaries,
(Mitt Romney, Carpetbagger UT,CA,MA,NH,Mexico) lost Iowa, South Carolina, Florida and California.
The only primaries he won were in Michigan, where Dad was governor; LDS states;
and a few states on Super Tuesday in which his California-obsessed rivals
couldn't spare the cash to advertise.
Only John Connolly in 1968 had a worse cash-to-delegates ratio.
And John McCain rightly did not like Romney's tactics during the primaries.
(W)hen (Romney's early leads) started slipping away, he resorted to unfair,
distorted, scorched-earth negative ads, betting that his opponents couldn't
afford to spend enough for the truth to catch up to his charges."

[Romney: A Mistake for McCain, 7/23/2008, Dick Morris]

45 posted on 05/06/2009 2:23:35 AM PDT by Diogenesis (Igitur qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum)
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To: Gator113

46 posted on 05/06/2009 2:23:42 AM PDT by Diogenesis (Igitur qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum)
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To: Jim Robinson

My thoughts exactly!

We don’t win wars by joining the ranks of the enemy and try to be more like them.

We win by digging in deeper, fight all the harder, and don’t give an inch of ground, until we can leave the foxholes and push them back into the sea. all the while leaving their rotting carcases behind us.

This is no longer a political game. This is a serious battle for the America we still love and who many of us here have fought and died for.

There is no surrender or moderate compromise!


47 posted on 05/06/2009 2:34:07 AM PDT by PSYCHO-FREEP (Give me LIBERTY or give me an M-24A2!)
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To: ansel12

Jeb Bush isn’t a conservative either. Freepers who have a love affair w/Jeb Bush should wake up. Jebbie’s a globalist and Eric Cantor says “we can learn from Obama”? What kind of bs is that? What a panderer and a sellout.


48 posted on 05/06/2009 6:21:54 AM PDT by floriduh voter (Obama's White House: Where men look like women & women look like men.)
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To: broncobilly

McCain, Fred, Romney? You left out Giuliani and Duncan Hunter and Hillary Clinton. What year do you think it is? 2007 and the 2008 election is over, it is time to forget your glory days of the past and look to the future. Those old political names are history from a bygone era.

The only dinosaur that is still around that can hurt us is Mitt Romney, we have a feast of riches with successful sitting governors and others to choose from and all you mention is that if it isn’t Governor Palin then we need the failed rino Mitt Romney as our only desperate fall back candidate. We also don’t need Mormons lecturing us that to try to block an unsuitable candidate from defeating OUR candidates in OUR primaries is “unchristian” and “an undemocratic approach”, it is the very exercise of democracy and the political process to try to take out an unsuitable candidate before he can destroy the party.

To claim that not supporting your loser, liberal candidate as leader of OUR conservative movement is “an undemocratic approach” is pretty rich even for a famous Romney obsessive like you, You signed up at FR to promote your fellow Mormon and you have done it relentlessly ever since, your interest is narrow and self serving, in fact this last post reads almost like your very first post here at FR.


49 posted on 05/06/2009 8:25:44 AM PDT by ansel12 (Romney (guns)"instruments of destruction with the sole purpose of hunting down and killing people")
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Ansell, as usual you are like concrete, all mixed up and set harder than rock.
I am not obsessive for Romney, I have serious reservations about Romney. However, I would like to enjoy the richness of FR without the obsessive Romney and Mormon bashing that comes from a few on the list. Most of my posting has been to fight that, for the good of FR.
My main interest in Romney is that I think he would be good to get the economy going. Perhaps he could do that as a vp or in a cabinet position. Other than that, I wish he would go be a president of some university or a CEO of some corporation.
My main interest last time was Fred. That didn't work out.
My main hope right now is Haley Barbour with Sarah as vp again. There are other candidates, but they seem so dull.
FR seems to be going down the same mistake as last time, spend so much energy fighting Romney that the MMM steps in and gives us the candidate they feel they can most easily beat. It pains me to see it all happening again. And you are so much in a fog, you don't see that you are a patsy, doing just what the left wants you to do.
50 posted on 05/06/2009 9:19:39 AM PDT by broncobilly
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To: broncobilly

The only one set in concrete is you, you are locked on Mitt Romney, you signed up to promote him in 2007 and you have never stopped. You are still promoting and defending Romney although the 2008 election is over, it is you that is locked into a permanent mode of pro Romney activism.


51 posted on 05/06/2009 9:57:15 AM PDT by ansel12 (Romney (guns)"instruments of destruction with the sole purpose of hunting down and killing people")
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To: ansel12
Show me just one post where I took the initiative and posted anything positive about Romney. If you are looking over the past you will see I only REACT to obsessive attacks on Romney. The only one where I took the initiative that I can remember was when I criticized Romney for complementing Obama for taking the auto companies to bankruptcy. You are so comfortable at making attacks you do not realize that all I am doing is trying to get people to not be so obsessively negative at Romney. The reason I can say that without checking is because the only way you can get me to say I want Romney for president is to say "as compared to McCain, Huckabee, or Obama."
52 posted on 05/06/2009 10:08:20 AM PDT by broncobilly
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To: broncobilly

You took the initiative to sign up at FR to start promoting and defending Mitt Romney from the very first post you made here.

What is it about you obsessive Romney types that make you think that no one knows your posting history, or the history of your candidate?

If you aren’t obsessed with promoting Romney then just forget about him and move on to the rest of our current field, as you have learned Romney is finished here at FR.


53 posted on 05/06/2009 10:15:04 AM PDT by ansel12 (Romney (guns)"instruments of destruction with the sole purpose of hunting down and killing people")
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To: ansel12

You took the initiative to sign up at FR to start promoting and defending Mitt Romney from the very first post you made here.


Defending against unfair attacks: Yes.
Promoting: NO.


54 posted on 05/06/2009 10:35:57 AM PDT by broncobilly
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To: broncobilly
Yes, promoting and defending.

When you spout the dishonest kumbayah stuff that you do about being "unChristian, a negative, and an undemocratic approach" you are only promoting your man Mitt Romney. You have the opposite approach when it involves the actual man that won the nomination, Republican Senator John McCain and the man that came in second Republican Governor Huckabee, you are perfectly willing to use an "unChristian, a negative, and an undemocratic approach" towards them, as you should, it is called working for a better candidate which also includes working against failed governor Mitt Romney.

Your interest here is to push Romney and you are doing it on Jim Robinson's anti Romney thread at this very moment. You cult like Romney groupies are amazing. You should give conservatism some attention for a while.

Like I said the test is whether you will move on from Romney or continue your concentrating on your Romney obsession. My bet is that you will stay with your obvious goal.

55 posted on 05/06/2009 11:01:09 AM PDT by ansel12 (Romney (guns)"instruments of destruction with the sole purpose of hunting down and killing people")
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