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Is Liberalism A Mental Disorder or Personality Disorder or Both? (VANITY)

Posted on 05/07/2009 9:01:24 PM PDT by Ptarmigan

Is Liberalism A Mental Disorder or Personality Disorder or Both? A personality disorder is like narcissistic personality disorder and there is no drug that can control it, it is up to that person to control it. A personality disorder is an indication of psychopathy.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Miscellaneous; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: disorders; liberalism; mentaldisorder; mentalillness; personalitydisorder; psychology; rossiter
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To: Ptarmigan

Liberals never consider the consequence of their actions or the affect it may have on others. The “Gay Marriage” debate is a classic example of this. The are totally un-repentant and refuse to accept any responsibility. It is always someone else fault. Bottom line, it is a personality disorder.


41 posted on 05/07/2009 11:24:39 PM PDT by skimask (When dealing with people who value death over life, traditional means of deterrence will not work)
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To: Lancey Howard

Your insight never ceases to amaze me. You hit a home run with your post.


42 posted on 05/07/2009 11:27:29 PM PDT by skimask (When dealing with people who value death over life, traditional means of deterrence will not work)
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To: Ptarmigan
Maybe these articles will help sort it out.

Articles that support the thesis that modern liberals suffer from a mental disorder.


43 posted on 05/07/2009 11:32:39 PM PDT by TigersEye (Cloward-Piven Strategy)
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To: skimask

Wow, thanks!


44 posted on 05/07/2009 11:41:59 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: Twink
It’s so easy to blame “government education.” LOL Sort of lets everyone off the hook, no responsibility or accountability for one’s actions.

Are you kidding me? When you have government school curriculums geared TOWARD dumbing down our children and millions of parents with zero care of what goes on at their child's school, you get at least one whole generation which knows nothing about how this country operates economically or what the Constitutional functions of Government are SUPPOSED to be.

SOME of us still managing to function is a good thing, but too many younger Americans have been molded into good little liberals.
45 posted on 05/08/2009 6:08:07 AM PDT by Eagle of Liberty (This nation must not die on our watch.)
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To: Twink
Moral absolutes should be taught in the home and in the churches. It’s our responsibility to teach them to our kids. It’s much easier to blame outside influences rather than individual person responsibility.

And in many of the homes of the families that I interact with, these things are taught. The parents of a good percentage of children are to blame and the liberals are all too eager to pounce on those that are vulerable. And when you have an entire society that is now perverted at school, on the television, and in just about every other form of media, the vulnerable are swayed even easier. And to top it all off, the other major political party, the Republicans, seem to now be the squishy middle party.

Maybe we all let the monstrosity known as Public Education come to be and allowed it to happen, but for the sake of the future of this country, we sure as hell better take it back.
46 posted on 05/08/2009 6:16:32 AM PDT by Eagle of Liberty (This nation must not die on our watch.)
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To: berdie; Twink
But maybe the “base” belief that was injected in my youth by my family eventually brought my forays into the realms of the “what if” philosophy brought me back to my base.

Good for you, but some never come back. You and Twink want to remove responsibility completely from the schools and place all responsibility at the feet of the parents. I say that we ALL play a part in the development of young Americans. Parents, Teachers, Coaches, Church, other outside sources....we all play a part. And when a large percentage of those forces are driving young Americans away from learning what it truly means to BE an American, we are headed for some real trouble. Heck, we are already there.

And if you really feel that the public schools are not that responsible, what is the true meaning of your tag line?
47 posted on 05/08/2009 6:29:32 AM PDT by Eagle of Liberty (This nation must not die on our watch.)
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To: Twink

Absolutely, it is the parents’ responsibility to instill the moral absolutes into their child’s education. I agree with you 100%.

I am just saying that progressive government has crept into a lot of our foundations at the turn of the 1900’s and has taken over the public school system along with the media. It is so hard for families to fight the main stream disinformation that is constantly directed at their children and they make moral relativism so enticing and exciting and sound so good and nice. It undermines parents’ teachings.

Good two parent families are struggling to raise their children because of oppressive taxes, etc., and MOST do not understand the progressive propaganda out there now adays. Pro choice sounds so good....homosexual rights sounds so just.....social security is needed for the old...universal health care is such a worthy item to spend money on..... The Marxists lies that are perpetually spouted as truth and logic deceive parents....they think they are doing good and “Voila!”....they have raised little comrades.


48 posted on 05/08/2009 3:47:36 PM PDT by savagesusie
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To: berdie
Of course, the moral education belongs at home.

The fact that there is a government school system run by a bunch of Marxists instilling their moral relativism into the minds of young susceptible children IS our fault. We have allowed the Marxist groups such as the homosexuals, feminists and multiculturalists to take over the educational system and our media with our tax money.

Personally, I would not allow my children to go to public schools now adays. Post modern German philosophy is in all the curricula and it promotes atheism and moral relativism and communism (egalitarianism). It is evil. Most movies and sitcoms are infused with this destructive, nihilistic philosophy and Europe is dying because they adopted it in the 1800's.

When it is so evasive, it is really hard to bring up moral children when there is chaos all around. It can be done, it is just very difficult.

You are right. If logic is learned as a child you can reason issues and come to the right conclusion. There is no education going on in most public schools....a lot of social indoctrination. A lot of parents do not understand how to raise their children--the importance of the young mind. Feminist groups control the parent magazines and issue bad and destructive advise to young mothers. They do not disparage single motherhood, probably one of the simplest ways for a marxist to get control over their child's mind.

49 posted on 05/08/2009 4:14:01 PM PDT by savagesusie
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To: Kerretarded

I completely agree. We are in trouble...now.

I would like to think that we could return to a time when young minds were surrounded by people worthy of their admiration. I really can’t think of a way to harness the negative influence of athletes, coaches, or “super stars”. And sadly, as much as I disagree with the ideology some of these folks promote, it is their opinion and they have a right to express it.

The public school system is disgraceful. Both in academia and the manipulation of young minds. The fact that teachers and professors fail to teach basic skills and deride patriotic or religous belief should not even be an issue. They should educate our children in the subject they are supposed to be teaching. But they don’t. If you can think of a way to contain the educators, let me know, I’m on board. Since public schools are tax funded, it really shouldn’t be an issue.

So the default setting is the parent(s), imho. Teach the children that everything they hear from the “heroes” maybe flawed and teach patriotism and moral courage. Stay involved in their education. Not everyone can home school or afford a private school (and some of them are morally challenged). Look at what they are being taught. Dispute or add to.

You asked about my tag line. It is a quote from Lincoln (I ran out of room). The only way we win this is to reclaim our children. I fear the majority are not up to the task.


50 posted on 05/08/2009 7:16:10 PM PDT by berdie (Philosophies of the school room in one generation will reflect the government philosophy of the next)
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To: Ptarmigan

I have given this question that you brought up a lot of thought because I know people who vote for liberals but are very thrifty and conservative in their personal life.

The answer is that most people are clueless and uninformed. For example, I’ve questioned people about the Born Alive Act, and they don’t know what it is. If they did, would they have voted for obama?


51 posted on 05/08/2009 7:42:21 PM PDT by Dr. Scarpetta
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To: Ptarmigan

Liberalism=Educated way beyond ones’intelligence.
Example: Any elected dimokrat


52 posted on 05/08/2009 7:53:17 PM PDT by Texas resident (Older but smarter)
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To: savagesusie

So..tell me how we correct this situation.

Lots of people can’t home school or can afford a private school (and not all of those are perfect).

As you said..bringing up a child is hard..but it can be done.

Do we have the courage to do it?


53 posted on 05/08/2009 8:28:08 PM PDT by berdie (Philosophies of the school room in one generation will reflect the government philosophy of the next)
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To: berdie

I see it with some members of my own extended family.

Even as a kid/teen/college student, when anything was brought up that questioned what I believed or raised to believe, I was always able to ask my parents, discuss it all with them. It was an ongoing conversation for as long as I can remember. What my parents taught me had far more influence on me than anything else.

I’m seeing it now with my own teens (all my kids actually). They hear something from their friends, or school, or on TV/movies, etc. and they’ll ask about it. We discuss it.

Also, I know there are parents who do all they can yet their kids still reject all or some of what they’ve been taught in the home. Even so, it’s not the job of anyone or anything else to teach them.


54 posted on 05/09/2009 1:32:13 PM PDT by Twink
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To: Kerretarded

Yes, we get a generation that doesn’t care. And who allowed that curriculum? Who allowed the dumbing down? The dumbing down has been going on since the early 70s, probably earlier, it’s not anything new. My oldest brother, a generation older than me, was complaining about it back then. The parents didn’t care, or not enough of them cared.

I fight changes in the Curriculum, sometimes we win, sometimes we don’t. I’ve found that many really don’t care. Part of why they don’t care is because they aren’t aware.

I’m responsible for molding my kids from birth. No one else is responsible.


55 posted on 05/09/2009 1:37:52 PM PDT by Twink
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To: Kerretarded

It’s not just the “monstosity of public education.” This is going on in all our schools. Sometimes, we win the battle.

If the parents are doing their job, most of time the kids will turn out just fine. There’s always examples to the contrary. Even the best parents do all they can and still have kids who screw up. There comes a time when it’s all up to the individual.


56 posted on 05/09/2009 1:43:15 PM PDT by Twink
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To: Kerretarded

No, I want to place responsibility at the feet of the individuals. I don’t think it “takes a village” to raise kids. It takes parents, and far too many aren’t parenting during the early years (many are, and still have kids that don’t hold the same religious, political, etc. beliefs). We can’t rely on any institution to parent our kids.

Many of our teachers (public, private, parochial), coaches, church liasons, and outside/other sources, are hindered by parents. Teaching personal responsibility and accountablity by any of these is often times met with outrage by parents.

Personally, I think no one is responsible for my kids other than me and my husband, and eventually, themselves. It doesn’t matter what outside influences they’re subjected to or whether or not I like or approve of those influences. There comes a time when it becomes their (the students/kids) responsibility and they should be held accountable.


57 posted on 05/09/2009 1:53:03 PM PDT by Twink
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To: savagesusie

Thanks for discussing this rationally. I agree with you. There are horrendous outside influences. My parents experienced the same thing back when they were raising their oldest (my oldest brother, a generation older than me). They rolled with it so to speak and then were raising my other sibs throughout and finally me. It’s always been difficult to parent/raise kids. I see a difference with my two oldest and two youngest. And, as a parent, I can’t blame outside influences when I fail. It’s my job as a parent to also make my kids responsible and accountable for their actions.

My point or opinion is that we try to do our best(most parents), raise our kids to the best of our ability and there comes a time when it’s all up to the kids. We’re not responsible for how anyone else raises their kids.

We are responsible for allowing education, media, entertainment, being taken over by those who will use their agenda to push their policies. But we can’t blame any of those for the choices our children are making or agreeing with. We can’t blame them for deceiving parents if those parents are so vulnerable or weak to fall for what’s being sold.


58 posted on 05/09/2009 2:09:41 PM PDT by Twink
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To: Twink
This and all the following are great posts and reflect much of my own opinion.

You are certainly correct. A parent can provide the basic foundation, but ultimately the child/adult will have to apply those concepts in every day life. Some do..some sadly don't.

People, both young and old, are subjected to outside influence...constantly. Since the biggest “constant” in a child's life is the parent (normally), that is where the biggest influence lies. If there is a great teacher, coach, religious leader or friend that offers positive influence..I think that is great. But I sure don't count on it these days.

On a brighter note..I went to one of the TEA parties. I was very encouraged by the number of young adults there. And the number of parents that brought their young children. We didn't lose ground overnight. It won't be regained overnight. Maybe these times we live in were created as a wake up call.

Keep fighting the good fight!!

59 posted on 05/09/2009 7:31:56 PM PDT by berdie (Philosophies of the school room in one generation will reflect the government philosophy of the next)
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To: Twink
It takes parents, and far too many aren’t parenting during the early years (many are, and still have kids that don’t hold the same religious, political, etc. beliefs). We can’t rely on any institution to parent our kids.

But you ARE relying on a single institution....parents. And when parents relegate that responsibility, what should we say to the kids, "Too bad. Sorry your parents didn't teach you better."

This mentality of allowing institutions such as the education system to be taken over by liberals has enabled the liberals to teach Marxism to many of our younger generations. If an intelligent parent is not around to counteract those messages, you have what we have today. You can continue to think that all you have to do is teach your own kids right from wrong and by doing so, all will be fine, but in the meantime, hundreds to every one of your kids is being taught that we are all the same, we should all get the same and that government can provide everything to everyone.
60 posted on 05/09/2009 8:17:00 PM PDT by Eagle of Liberty (This nation must not die on our watch.)
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