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Bad morning for Pelosi
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Posted on 05/13/2009 7:18:42 AM PDT by Sub-Driver

Bad morning for Pelosi @ 9:53 am by Eric Zimmermann

Two new developments in the "what did Pelosi know about waterboarding" series spell trouble for the Speaker.

First, CNN reports that an aide told Pelosi in February 2003 that waterboarding had been used on Abu Zubaydah. This contradicts Pelosi's assertion that she only knew about the legal rationale for waterboarding, not that it had been used.

Sheehy attended a briefing in which waterboarding was discussed in February 2003, with Rep. Jane Harman, D-California, who took over Pelosi's spot as the ranking Democrat on the House Intelligence Committee.

This source says Pelosi didn't object when she learned that waterboarding was being used because she had not been personally briefed about it — only her aide had been told.

This looks pretty bad for Pelosi, as though she avoided any "personal briefing" to maintain deniability.

Second, Majority Leader Steny Hoyer is now reluctantly admitting that Congressional hearings on the matter should include questions about what Pelosi knew.

The first of those hearings is today, a Senate Judiciary Committee that starts in, oh, about 5 minutes. The witness lineup today means the Pelosi issue probably won't take center stage, but that might change with future hearings.


TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 200302; 200905; abuzubaidah; abuzubayda; abuzubaydah; bleedingheartattack; democrats; eit; eits; harman; janeharman; pelosi; waterboarding; zawahiri; zubaidah; zubaydah
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

“Moisturize me!”


41 posted on 05/13/2009 7:44:40 AM PDT by <1/1,000,000th%
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To: Sub-Driver

And now for that sixties hit by the Knickerbockers...


42 posted on 05/13/2009 7:45:54 AM PDT by PzLdr ("The Emperor is not as forgiving as I am" - Darth Vader)
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To: Virginia Ridgerunner

If he wants to get her, I say we wish the old socialist luck, pop some popcorn and watch the blood fly.


43 posted on 05/13/2009 7:47:51 AM PDT by Armedanddangerous ( I think you're so full of inconsolable rage you don't care who you hurt)
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To: tiredoflaundry

I wouldn’t be surprised. Just think what Pelosi and her hoidy toidy friends say in private about Mechelle and her, um, fashion statements. Catty to the 10th degree I would bet...


44 posted on 05/13/2009 7:48:54 AM PDT by eureka! (Elections have consequences, boy howdy. *sigh*)
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To: Sub-Driver

She is sounding more senile every day.


45 posted on 05/13/2009 7:49:14 AM PDT by CodeToad (If it weren't for physics and law enforcement I'd be unstoppable!)
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To: Sub-Driver

Harmon has no love for Nancy, after the Speaker yanked her from her committee chairmanship..and Hoyer, well, remember, he originally ran AGAINST her, and anyone who doesn’t think that ole Steny wouldn’t liek to be Speaker..well..


46 posted on 05/13/2009 7:50:06 AM PDT by ken5050
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To: Army Air Corps

Ah yes, the “last human in the universe”...


47 posted on 05/13/2009 7:52:06 AM PDT by MrB (Go Galt now, Bowman later)
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To: Liberty Valance
"She was blinking and nodding uncontrollably."

An orgasm?

48 posted on 05/13/2009 7:53:04 AM PDT by norwaypinesavage (Global Warming Theory is extremely robust with respect to data. All observations confirm it)
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To: norwaypinesavage

Ugh. Two words that do NOT belong together: “Pelosi” and “orgasm.”


49 posted on 05/13/2009 7:55:52 AM PDT by Army Air Corps (Four fried chickens and a coke)
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To: brownsfan

You’re bad.


50 posted on 05/13/2009 7:56:23 AM PDT by Mr. Lucky
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To: Sub-Driver
So three surgeons are bragging about their skills. The first says "I had a guy who lost both hands in an accident and I reattached them and now he's playing concert piano at Carnegie Hall."

The second says "That's nothing. I had a guy who lost both legs in an accident and I reattached them and last week he won the Olympic Gold medal in the 100 meter dash."

The third surgeon says "You guys are both pikers. I had a drunk woman who was riding a horse across some railroad tracks when she got hit by a freight train traveling 80 miles per hour. All I had left to work with was a hunk of hair and a horses' ass, and now she's Speaker of the House."

51 posted on 05/13/2009 7:59:53 AM PDT by Ditto
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To: Sub-Driver

Wouldn’t it be zany if this were all orchestrated by Great Leader as a way to get out from underneath Dom-Pelosi’s stilleto?


52 posted on 05/13/2009 8:01:32 AM PDT by AD from SpringBay (We deserve the government we allow.)
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To: Armedanddangerous
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53 posted on 05/13/2009 8:04:16 AM PDT by ontap (Just another backstabbing conservative)
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To: Sub-Driver

Sitting here wondering: If it’s shown Nancy Pelosi (as well as others) knew about the waterboarding, will the definition of torture slowly shift back to the traditional meaning?


54 posted on 05/13/2009 8:05:52 AM PDT by jellybean (Who is John Galt? ~ Bookmark http://altfreerepublic.freeforums.org for when FR is down)
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To: Pharmboy

Not really. Pelosi losing credibility will benefit Opossum. He and Rahm are entirely behind her political demise.


55 posted on 05/13/2009 8:10:26 AM PDT by Cletus.D.Yokel (FreepMail me if you want on the Bourbon ping list!)
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To: Sub-Driver

“... Majority Leader Steny Hoyer is now reluctantly admitting that Congressional hearings on the matter should include questions about what Pelosi knew.”

Reluctantly ? My foot! Hoyer and Pelosi have had a deep-seated hatred for each other since their college days when they were Congressional interns. And, gee whiz, who’s second in line to the Speaker?

hahaha, this is too good for words. Bring on the popcorn.


56 posted on 05/13/2009 8:12:05 AM PDT by EDINVA (A government that robs Peter to pay Paul can always depend on the support of Paul -- G. B. Shaw)
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To: Sybeck1

Second dimwit in charge of house. Should have been speaker but Nancy stiffed him out of the job. Seems he is going after blood but trying to make it seem as if he is all for Pukeosi.


57 posted on 05/13/2009 8:15:16 AM PDT by calex59
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To: Cletus.D.Yokel

VERY interesting point...the fact that I missed it cold reinforces the fact that I was not meant for high-stakes politics. Thanks for sharing your insight (you don’t sound like too much of a yokel to me...).


58 posted on 05/13/2009 8:28:06 AM PDT by Pharmboy (Who ever thought we would long for the days of the Clinton administration...)
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To: Tarpon
Obama wants Pelosi gone ...

That's what I'm starting to think. Obama released the memo to keep the Bush/Cheney scapegoat alive, but also to replace Pelosi with his hand picked successor.

Is Barry really that Machiavellian?

59 posted on 05/13/2009 8:50:53 AM PDT by BigBobber
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To: BigBobber
Is Barry really that Machiavellian?

That is his starting point.

60 posted on 05/13/2009 8:51:54 AM PDT by going hot (Happiness is a Momma Deuce)
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