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Notre Dame honors Obama, dishonors all that is good - PROTEST LIVE THREAD, May 17, 2009
AIPNEWS.com ^ | May 17, 2009 | AIP Chairman Tom Hoefling, aka EternalVigilance

Posted on 05/17/2009 6:34:09 AM PDT by EternalVigilance

May 17, 2009

Please post all information about today's protests here.

My phone is already ringing steadily.

Our AIP folks on the ground at the Notre Dame gates report that the CBR plane is in the air.


TOPICS: Activism/Chapters; US: Indiana
KEYWORDS: catholic; life; moralabsolutes; notredame; obama; prolife; protest
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To: bgill
I find ALL it's supporters to be idiotic! They are either outright lying or just wearing their “tainted” sunglasses!
401 posted on 05/17/2009 11:55:29 AM PDT by NoGrayZone (The beauty of the 2nd amendment is that it will not be needed until they try to take it. T.J.)
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To: phil1750
'Obama says he wants aborton to become rare'

Yes, he likes those innocent babies "bloody" instead of "well done" - i.e. brought to full term.

And he will push contraception to all ages of kids, promote that being sexually active and promiscuous is a basic 'human right,' and make sure anyone whose family disagrees is convinced that they are out of step and that he's the cool guy who really cares about them.

The biological urge to procreate the species is very strong. That is why, in spite of ubiquitously available contraception, 'unwanted' pregnancy still occurs.

402 posted on 05/17/2009 11:55:32 AM PDT by MantillaMilitant
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To: spectre
There are people standing there today, at Notre Dame, laughing and clapping..

.....who will be left on the threshing room floor.

The wheat is being separated from the chaff!

God is not mocked!

403 posted on 05/17/2009 11:55:47 AM PDT by Guenevere
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To: RummyChick

don’t know about regis, I don’t watch him and haven’t read anything anywhere about any comments he’s made.


404 posted on 05/17/2009 11:55:57 AM PDT by rockabyebaby (We are soooooooooooooooooooooooo screwed!)
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To: Guenevere

I have seen studentsw with crosses and baby footprints on their mortarboards (sic).


405 posted on 05/17/2009 11:56:00 AM PDT by PghBaldy (There's abortion, and there's infanticide. Obama supports both.)
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To: Guenevere

I saw Totus earlier..it appears no one is using it but Obama.


406 posted on 05/17/2009 11:56:22 AM PDT by RummyChick
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To: NoGrayZone

No, Jenkins. ND is not now part of the Catholic Church.


407 posted on 05/17/2009 11:56:25 AM PDT by bgill (The evidence simply does not support the official position of the Obama administration)
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To: abigail2

I saved it to my personal picture file, then inserted it into my blog post.


408 posted on 05/17/2009 11:56:59 AM PDT by redhead (Alaska: Step out of the bus and into the food chain)
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To: EternalVigilance

I don’t understand the outrage. How is Notre Dame any different from any other university?


409 posted on 05/17/2009 11:57:02 AM PDT by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all. -- Texas Eagle)
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To: RummyChick

Totus can now actually wear a tassle.


410 posted on 05/17/2009 11:57:13 AM PDT by combat_boots (The 5 Stages of Collapse: http://www.energybulletin.net/node/47157)
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To: rockabyebaby

B16 better get on this one. That is the second time I heard the word, “Evolving” regarding the Catholic Faith coming out of a Catholic Priest mouth.


411 posted on 05/17/2009 11:57:28 AM PDT by mware (F-R-E-E, that spells free. Free Republic.com baby.)
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How in God's name can Jenkins speak such double talk, such hypocrisy ???!?? There is NO debate about settled Catholic theology!


412 posted on 05/17/2009 11:57:31 AM PDT by STARWISE (They (LIBS-STILL) think of this WOT as Bush's war, not America's war- Richard Miniter)
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To: rockabyebaby

ND NEEDS TO HEAL jenkins and so do you, you have gone astray, the Lord weeps


413 posted on 05/17/2009 11:57:40 AM PDT by rockabyebaby (We are soooooooooooooooooooooooo screwed!)
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To: Jeff Head

Don’t worry and face the facts without fear!
Some CATHOLICS ARE NO MORE CATHOLICS and it could told as well about CHRISTIANS...

Many “christians” ,including “catholics”,transformed christian message into a vague socialism,liberalism,pacifism...which is perfectly consistant with the MSM PC propaganda....It’s much more confortable


414 posted on 05/17/2009 11:57:41 AM PDT by Ulysse
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To: bgill

I saw that too. I literally slapped my forehead in disbelief. Do these people THINK?


415 posted on 05/17/2009 11:57:44 AM PDT by abishai
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To: EternalVigilance
Dr. Death.

You beat me by ONE SECOND! LOL...

It was a thought that instantaneously resounded throughout the cosmos.

416 posted on 05/17/2009 11:58:05 AM PDT by TigersEye (Cloward-Piven Strategy)
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To: bgill
They obviously have a different meaning of “deep moral values”. Damn fools, the whole lot of them!
417 posted on 05/17/2009 11:58:08 AM PDT by NoGrayZone (The beauty of the 2nd amendment is that it will not be needed until they try to take it. T.J.)
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To: bgill

Human reason dictates life over murder you idiot.


418 posted on 05/17/2009 11:58:09 AM PDT by bgill (The evidence simply does not support the official position of the Obama administration)
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To: TornadoAlley3

Lucifer has to love this picture.

419 posted on 05/17/2009 11:58:21 AM PDT by CedarDave (Not new news: Obama has Pork Flu)
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To: combat_boots

Fr Jenkins is invoking the Pope.


420 posted on 05/17/2009 11:58:28 AM PDT by combat_boots (The 5 Stages of Collapse: http://www.energybulletin.net/node/47157)
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To: Texas Eagle

I’s support the remant.


421 posted on 05/17/2009 11:58:30 AM PDT by cornelis
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To: bgill
I’m sitting with my back to the tv so am only listening. I made the mistake to turn around to see the identity of the girl and there was that punk’s arrogant nose stuck up in the air. Sickening.

me too, I am so close to throwing up, really. This is horribly sickening.
422 posted on 05/17/2009 11:59:15 AM PDT by Delphinium
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To: RoseofTexas

Agreed. And I’m praying that the Teleprompter will short circuit or that Obama will be in fine babbling, stuttering mode today. I’m physically ill watching this stuff.


423 posted on 05/17/2009 11:59:19 AM PDT by 1951Boomer
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To: rockabyebaby

John Paul II is rolling over in his grave about now


424 posted on 05/17/2009 11:59:40 AM PDT by rockabyebaby (We are soooooooooooooooooooooooo screwed!)
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To: bgill
God warned us of this. It's just disheartening to actually see it happening.
425 posted on 05/17/2009 12:00:02 PM PDT by NoGrayZone (The beauty of the 2nd amendment is that it will not be needed until they try to take it. T.J.)
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To: Texas Eagle
I don’t understand the outrage. How is Notre Dame any different from any other university?

I think I'll let Catholics answer that one.

426 posted on 05/17/2009 12:00:23 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (Big tyrants unleash a million petty tyrants.)
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To: Guenevere
Just got back from Church and turned on this sickening show.

Fr. Jenkins (now quoting Pope Benedict for his own devious purpose) makes me want to hurl.

Too many fools in that audience. Does a degree mean anything anymore.

“This is what a Catholic University is meant to be” - boy I despise this priest.

427 posted on 05/17/2009 12:00:30 PM PDT by Never on my watch (The scientist who would have discovered the cure to AIDS in the Amazon was aborted in January 1978)
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To: EDINVA

Thank you.


428 posted on 05/17/2009 12:00:36 PM PDT by Gatún(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer)
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To: rockabyebaby

Here we go, ND is the victim


429 posted on 05/17/2009 12:00:53 PM PDT by rockabyebaby (We are soooooooooooooooooooooooo screwed!)
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Fr. Jenkins, on a Sunday afternoon, speaks of over 1000 years of Catholic education and letters.

This man with his arrogant chin in the air and his support of killing babies at whatever time, even after birth, is an epitome.


430 posted on 05/17/2009 12:01:16 PM PDT by combat_boots (The 5 Stages of Collapse: http://www.energybulletin.net/node/47157)
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To: PghBaldy
I have seen studentsw with crosses and baby footprints on their mortarboards (sic).

How interesting. When FNC scaned the audience earlier they made mention there were none that were visible much to my disappointment.

431 posted on 05/17/2009 12:01:21 PM PDT by StarFan
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Is Father Jenkins saying protesters were hostile?

He just honored obama for accepting the invitation to speak?


432 posted on 05/17/2009 12:01:34 PM PDT by OafOfOffice (Constitution is not neutral.It was designed to take the government off the backs of people-Douglas)
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To: luvEastTenn

NO!!!!! I’ve been complaining about the egosticial Hussein accepting. He’s not a man. If he were, he would have stepped down.


433 posted on 05/17/2009 12:01:34 PM PDT by bgill (The evidence simply does not support the official position of the Obama administration)
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To: Texas Eagle

You must not be Catholic, otherwise you would not be asking that question.


434 posted on 05/17/2009 12:01:39 PM PDT by rockabyebaby (We are soooooooooooooooooooooooo screwed!)
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To: TornadoAlley3

Is Jenkins a homo?, He sure looks like one to me.


435 posted on 05/17/2009 12:01:41 PM PDT by Delphinium
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To: whatisthetruth

Not everyone who attends Notre Dame is Catholic.


436 posted on 05/17/2009 12:01:45 PM PDT by MantillaMilitant
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To: rockabyebaby

You are screwed if you want to!
Speak for yourself ! Sorry!

As long as you fight you are not “screwed”


437 posted on 05/17/2009 12:01:52 PM PDT by Ulysse
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To: StarFan

Give me a break he is beginning to break down.


438 posted on 05/17/2009 12:02:10 PM PDT by mware (F-R-E-E, that spells free. Free Republic.com baby.)
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To: bgill

“Stupid moronic woman - I’m pro life, but I’m also pro Obama.”

One of the saddest examples of ignorance I have heard.

Satan is the great deceiver.
Many at Notre Dame, and many who call them selves Christian have been deceived.


439 posted on 05/17/2009 12:02:11 PM PDT by HereInTheHeartland (I agree with Rick..)
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To: Delphinium

Every second of this charade is just another supply source for his narcissism. When is it going to END!


440 posted on 05/17/2009 12:02:13 PM PDT by 1951Boomer
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To: rockabyebaby

OMG! Praising obama, this is worse than I thought.


441 posted on 05/17/2009 12:02:16 PM PDT by rockabyebaby (We are soooooooooooooooooooooooo screwed!)
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To: EternalVigilance

look out O is about to flip off Jenkins


442 posted on 05/17/2009 12:02:26 PM PDT by freebird5850 (O-Bomba is not the Messia. Jesus was a carpenter and could build a cabinet!)
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To: bgill

Shave his head and there will be 666.


443 posted on 05/17/2009 12:02:27 PM PDT by bgill (The evidence simply does not support the official position of the Obama administration)
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To: STARWISE
The Spirit of Judas Iscariot is alive and well in the body of Fr. Jenkins


444 posted on 05/17/2009 12:02:32 PM PDT by whatisthetruth
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To: EternalVigilance

Such a valid question EV! Oh this is so sad. God will not hold back His Rightous Vengance for ever. Justice WILL be done in His Time!!


445 posted on 05/17/2009 12:02:46 PM PDT by pollywog (Psalm 91:4 ...staying cuddled Under His Wings)
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To: Ulysse; All

Is Jenkins doing doublespeak?


446 posted on 05/17/2009 12:03:02 PM PDT by NoGrayZone (The beauty of the 2nd amendment is that it will not be needed until they try to take it. T.J.)
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To: whatisthetruth

I like the cross and baby feet on the graduates hat.


447 posted on 05/17/2009 12:03:32 PM PDT by freebird5850 (O-Bomba is not the Messia. Jesus was a carpenter and could build a cabinet!)
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RIGHTS OF CONSCIENCE MUST BE DEFENDED
Pope John Paul II
http://www.ewtn.com/library/PAPALDOC/JP2RTCON.HTM
Homily given on May 22, 1995

....in the difficult post-Reformation period, when societies were governed by the inhuman principle: “cuius regio eius religio”. By virtue of this principle, rulers forcibly imposed their own religious convictions on their subjects, violating the basic rights of conscience. .....

[..]

... One can feel either admiration or hatred for someone who prefers to give his life rather than betray the voice of his own conscience, but certainly one cannot remain indifferent. The martyrs have so many things to tell us; first and foremost, they challenge us about the state of our conscience, they challenge everyone about fidelity to their own conscience.

Our consciences must be based on truth. Conscience...[is called] “man’s most secret core, and his sanctuary” and explains: “Deep within his conscience man discovers a law which he has not laid upon himself but which he must obey. Its voice, ever calling him to love and to do what is good and to avoid evil, tells him inwardly at the right moment: do this, shun that” (Gaudium et spes, n. 16).

As we see from this quotation, conscience is a vitally important issue for every individual. It is our inner guide and also the judge of our actions. How important it is therefore for our conscience to be upright, to make judgements based on truth, to call good and evil, to know how­in the Apostle’s words­to “prove what is the will of God, what is good and acceptable and perfect” (Rom 12:2).

Today our homeland is facing many difficult social, economic and political problems. They must be solved with wisdom and perseverance. The most important of all, however, remains the problem of a just moral order. This order is the foundation of every individual’s life and of the life of every society. For this reason, today Poland urgently and primarily needs men and women of conscience!

To be a person of conscience means first of all, obeying one’s own conscience in every situation and not silencing its inner voice, even if it is sometimes severe and demanding. It means working for what is good and increasing it within and around oneself, and never giving into evil, in the spirit of St. Paul’s words: “Do not be overcome by evil, but overcome evil with good” (Rom 12:21).

To be a person of conscience means being demanding with oneself, getting up again after falling, being ever converted anew.

To be a person of conscience means working to build up the kingdom of God­the kingdom of truth and life, of justice, love and peace­in our families, in the communities in which we live and throughout our homeland. It also means courageously assuming responsibility for public affairs; it means being concerned for the common good and not closing our eyes to the misery and needs of our neighbor, in a spirit of Gospel solidarity: “Bear one another’s burdens” (Gal 6:2).

...Our 20th century has been a period in which human consciences have been particularly violated. In the name of totalitarian ideologies, millions of people were forced to act against their deepest convictions. Central and Eastern Europe has had unusually painful experiences in this respect. We recall this period when consciences were suppressed, when human dignity was despised, when so many innocent people suffered for deciding to remain faithful to their convictions. We recall the outstanding role taken in those difficult times by the Church in defending the rights of conscience, and not only for the benefit of believers.

In those years we often asked ourselves: Can history swim against the tide of conscience? At what price can it do so? I ask again: at what price?... This price is unfortunately the deep wounds in the nation’s moral fiber, open wounds which still need a long time to heal.

Those times, times of great trial for conscience must be remembered, since for us they are an ever timely warning and exhortation to vigilance: that Polish consciences may not yield to demoralization, that they may not surrender to the trends of moral permissiveness, that they may discover the liberating nature of the teaching of the Gospel and the commandments of God, that in making decisions they may be mindful of Christ’s warning: “For what does it profit a man to gain the whole world and forfeit his life? For what can a man give in return for his life?” (Mk 8:36-37).

Despite appearances, the rights of conscience must be defended today as well. In the name of tolerance, a powerful intolerance, perhaps an ever more powerful intolerance, is actually spreading in public life and in the mass media. Believers are painfully aware of it. They notice the increasing tendency to marginalize them from the life of society: what is most sacred to them is sometimes mocked and ridiculed. These forms of recurring discrimination arouse great concern and should be a cause for much reflection.

Brothers and sisters! .... do not forget that this life depends first of all on how man will be, on how his conscience will be. Therefore we cry out in prayer:

“Come, Holy Spirit...
Come, Light of men’s hearts.
Wash clean the sinful soul, rain down your grace on the parched soul...
Warm the ice-cold heart, and give direction to the wayward”. Come, Light of consciences!
Christ’s Cross is the sign of our salvation

“Stat crux dum volvitur orbis”. On the paths of the human conscience, which are sometimes so difficult and complicated, God has put up a great “road sign” giving definitive meaning and direction to human life. It is the Cross of our Lord Jesus Christ. ..

Hail, O Cross of Christ! The Cross of Christ is the sign of our salvation, the sign of our faith and the sign of our hope. St. Paul writes: “We preach Christ crucified, a stumbling block to Jews and folly to Gentiles, but to those who are called... the power of God and the wisdom of God” (1 Cor 1:23-24).

The Cross reminds us of the price of our salvation. It speaks of what great value man has in God’s eyes­every man!­if God loved him even unto the Cross: “Having loved his own who were in the world, he loved them to the end” (Jn 13:1). How much this “to the end” says to us. God so loves, he loves man “to the end”. The Cross of Christ is precisely the proof of this. Can we remain indifferent to such a proof of love?

Dear brothers and sisters! In our Polish land the Cross has had its own history now for over 1,000 years. It is the history of salvation which has been written into the history of the great human community that is our nation. Down the centuries, in periods of very harsh trial, the nation has sought and found the strength to survive and to rise from its historical defeats precisely in the Cross of Christ! It has never been disappointed! The strength and wisdom of the Cross has been strong! Can that be forgotten?

“...Can one reject Christ and all that he has brought to human history? .. Certainly one can. Man is free. Man can say ‘no’ to Christ. But the basic question remains: is it licit to do this? In whose name is this licit? By virtue of what rational argument, what value close to one’s will and heart would it be possible to stand before oneself, one’s neighbor, one’s fellow citizens, one’s country, in order to cast off, to say ‘no’ to all that we have seen for 1,000 years? To all that has created and always constituted the basis of our identity?

Today, as Poland lays the foundations for its free and sovereign existence, after experiencing so many years of totalitarianism, these words must be recalled. In their light, 16 years later, a profound examination of conscience must be made: Where are we going? In what direction are consciences heading? What answer will Poland give to Christ?

Dear brothers and sisters, dear compatriots! At this great turning-point in our country’s history, as the future shape of our Republic is being decided, the Pope, your compatriot, tirelessly asks you to welcome anew, with faith and love, this legacy of Christ’s Cross. Once again, in a free and mature way, choose the Cross of Christ.... Accept responsibility for the presence of the Cross in the life of each and every one of you, in the life of your families and in the life of this great community which is Poland. Defend it! For the Apostle says: “We have this treasure in earthen vessels” (2 Cor 4:7). ....

...And here, in our presence, at the end of this meditation, is the Christ of St. John’s Revelation, Christ the Good Shepherd and Christ the Lamb of God, who gave his life for his flock (cf. Rv 7:9-14). ...Amen.


448 posted on 05/17/2009 12:03:34 PM PDT by Matchett-PI ("Conservatism is about freedom, and fighting people who want to take it away." Rush Limbaugh)
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To: freebird5850

I saw that long finger going to his face....it could happen anytime. That is his technique. Obama looks serious.


449 posted on 05/17/2009 12:03:40 PM PDT by proud2beconservativeinNJ ("In God We Trust")
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To: NoGrayZone

I did NOT elect him.

No, he went to granny’s bedside to make sure she wasn’t talking about the BC.


450 posted on 05/17/2009 12:04:11 PM PDT by bgill (The evidence simply does not support the official position of the Obama administration)
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