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Live Thread: Obama vs. Cheney
Thursday, May 21, 2009 | Kristinn

Posted on 05/21/2009 7:11:47 AM PDT by kristinn

Obama goes first in a few minutes. He's speaking at the rotunda of the National Archives (you think we could get Nicholas Cage on that birth certificate thingey?) on his Gitmo policy and other man-caused calamities.

Vice President Cheney gets the rebuttal time. He's speaking at the American Enterprise Institute around 10:45 a.m. EDT.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: bho44; cheney; clubgitmo; detainees; gitmo; nationalsecurity; obama
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To: NordP
CHEY-NEE - CHEY-NEE - CHEY-NEE !!!
441 posted on 05/21/2009 8:20:06 AM PDT by NordP (BHO's new book, "To Serve Man/United States" --- NO NO NO....RUN....it's a COOKBOOK!)
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To: sirjohn

TOTUS ran out of memory. We are thankful for small favors.


442 posted on 05/21/2009 8:20:14 AM PDT by NautiNurse (Obama: A day without TOTUS is like a day without sunshine)
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To: Neverforget01
I have to say...this is the FIRST time I’ve ever heard Obama sound defensive. He knows he’s in deep sh**.

Yes. That, and I think he's let Cheney into his noodle. Not a good idea (for him).

443 posted on 05/21/2009 8:20:16 AM PDT by Mad_Tom_Rackham (What did Obama's Teleprompter know, and when did it know it...)
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To: mewzilla
Because power corrupts, society's demands for moral authority and character increase as the importance of the position increases.

John Adams

A thing moderately good is not so good as it ought to be. Moderation in temper is always a virtue; but moderation in principle is always a vice.

Thomas Paine

444 posted on 05/21/2009 8:20:20 AM PDT by mewzilla (In politics the middle way is none at all. John Adams)
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To: kabar

The guy now at the AEI podium looks like Putin..


445 posted on 05/21/2009 8:20:31 AM PDT by ken5050
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To: kristinn

Do people notice he is always calling for a shutdown of debate? Everything said against his policies is soundbites and political rhetoric. And this “division” is the only thing that can weaken us.

All leftists seek to silence their opponents as “dangerous”.


446 posted on 05/21/2009 8:20:31 AM PDT by Williams (It's The Policies, Stupid.)
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To: Carley

Its 11:15 EDT and the HNIC is STILL running his lying mouth!

Growing up in East Texas around and with lots of Bros like nobama, they must have some generitc thing about thinking they can talk and talk (saying nothing of substance) until everyone simply gets tired and say OK.

Finally he gone. Now Rove, next CHENEY!


447 posted on 05/21/2009 8:20:31 AM PDT by dusttoyou (Remember the Alamo Tea Party - CHENEY-PALIN 2012)
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To: ShandaLear

Here comes the VP.


448 posted on 05/21/2009 8:20:34 AM PDT by linn37
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To: Bronzy

I think BO is going to talk all day.

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A skill and practice of many dictators, but Obama is only a reader of words that others write, so eventually he has to stop.


449 posted on 05/21/2009 8:20:37 AM PDT by maica (Politics is not about facts. it is about what politicians can get people to believe. - Thomas Sowell)
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To: khnyny
The speech is a rambling, defensive, blaming and divisive piece of egoism. Obama careens from one point to another with little focus, and he continually contradicts himself.

Isn't that what he's always done?

450 posted on 05/21/2009 8:20:38 AM PDT by spectre (Spectre's wife)
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“We can and will defeat Al-Queada”

Man. A little premature celebrating don't you think.

451 posted on 05/21/2009 8:20:44 AM PDT by McGruff
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To: khnyny

Cheney vs. Obama: A Mismatch

I’ve read both speeches.

Obama’s is the speech of a young senator who was once a part-time law professor—platitudinous and preachy, vague and pseudo-thoughtful in an abstract kind of way. This sentence was revealing: “On the other hand, I recently opposed the release of certain photographs that were taken of detainees by U.S. personnel between 2002 and 2004.” “Opposed the release”? Doesn’t he mean “decided not to permit the release”? He’s president. He’s not just a guy participating in a debate. But he’s more comfortable as a debater, not as someone who takes responsibility for decisions.

Cheney’s is the speech of a grownup, of a chief executive, of a statesman. He’s sober, realistic and concrete, stands up for his country and its public officials, and has an acute awareness of the consequences of the choices one makes as a public official and a willingness to take responsibility for those choices.

Posted by William Kristol on May 21, 2009 11:04 AM | Permalink


452 posted on 05/21/2009 8:20:55 AM PDT by roses of sharon (NOTRE DAMIAN: ABORTION, YES WE CAN!)
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To: jackv

453 posted on 05/21/2009 8:20:58 AM PDT by cbkaty (I may not always post...but I am always here......)
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To: spectre

“It is clear the president served in the senate because in the house we have the 5 minute rule” - ZINGER!


454 posted on 05/21/2009 8:21:13 AM PDT by TSgt (Extreme vitriol and rancorous replies served daily. - Mike W USAF)
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To: NordP

rove: speech given from weakness not strength.


455 posted on 05/21/2009 8:21:16 AM PDT by kempster
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To: NordP

rove: speech given from weakness not strength.


456 posted on 05/21/2009 8:21:22 AM PDT by kempster
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To: khnyny

“The speech is a rambling, defensive, blaming and divisive piece of egoism. Obama careens from one point to another with little focus, and he continually contradicts himself. “

- - -

I believe you are describing all, if not most, of his teleprompter presentations.


457 posted on 05/21/2009 8:21:23 AM PDT by Sparko
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To: concerned about politics

Whew. My heart already feels comforted hearing Cheney’s strong steady voice of experience.


458 posted on 05/21/2009 8:21:28 AM PDT by CheneyChick
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To: Typical_Whitey
I don’t get it.... I guess this nuance is above my paygrade

It's not nuance. It's nuts. And I mean that in the technical sense of the word.

459 posted on 05/21/2009 8:21:28 AM PDT by mewzilla (In politics the middle way is none at all. John Adams)
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To: kristinn

MSNBC, CNN and FoxNews are carrying Cheney’s speech live (for a while, at least).

FYI


460 posted on 05/21/2009 8:21:51 AM PDT by TomGuy
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