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Obama Is Said to Consider Preventive Detention Plan (Flush the Constitution!)
NY Slimes (Page A18!!!) ^ | 5/21/2009 | SHERYL GAY STOLBERG

Posted on 05/21/2009 8:05:48 AM PDT by markomalley

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To: cayuga

Excellent rules to remember, thanks.


201 posted on 05/21/2009 1:40:37 PM PDT by mrsmel (Put the Gitmo terrorists near Capitol Hill.)
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To: massgopguy

Rush Limbaugh or Sarah Palin would the first prisoner.


202 posted on 05/21/2009 1:47:59 PM PDT by techno
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To: TheBigIf
Enemy compbatant treatment is also specified in the Geneva Convention relative to the Treatment of Prisoners of WarGeneva Convention

Accordingly, POWs can be retained till the end of the conflict even if it's forever.

203 posted on 05/21/2009 1:48:13 PM PDT by Lady Jag (Communism + Hezbollah + Al Qaeda + Obama + StoneAge = CHAOS)
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To: Rebelbase

LOL...
I better practice my card playing.


204 posted on 05/21/2009 2:01:44 PM PDT by WOBBLY BOB (ACORN:American Corruption for Obama Right Now)
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To: wolf24

sorry Obama fails.


205 posted on 05/21/2009 2:04:18 PM PDT by Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!
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To: MrB; All

I think the intellectual upper hard left might be thinking as you describe, but I’m thinking more about their useful stooges, you know the kind who are influenced by unicorns and rain-bows and green sustainable life-styles who want war no more and no god above, ect yada yada. Without their stooges amongst students,borderline personality disorder female protestors, geeks, 9/11 conspiracy nuts, actors and media folk, the hard left would have no foot soldiers with which to advance their agenda!


206 posted on 05/21/2009 2:06:42 PM PDT by mdmathis6
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To: unkus
Who will free the Americans from the camps?

See my signature line.

207 posted on 05/21/2009 2:07:21 PM PDT by Centurion2000 (We either Free America ourselves, or it is midnight for humanity for a thousand years.)
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To: Wonder Warthog

but what if barrys not a citizen?


209 posted on 05/21/2009 2:34:25 PM PDT by wiggen
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To: markomalley; ExTexasRedhead; TenthAmendmentChampion

Not hiding much, is the stalinist POS?

Translation of the german excerpt in #16.

hmmmmmmmmm....


210 posted on 05/21/2009 2:48:39 PM PDT by dynachrome (Barack Hussein Obama yunikku khinaaziir)
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To: tcrlaf

they did their job as they define it,not as their noble predecessors did.


211 posted on 05/21/2009 2:51:36 PM PDT by wiggen
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To: markomalley
Thanks for posting that again; now I can stop searching for it; there's so much info these days.

Re dentention camps, et.al, govt Constitution tampering and civil rights intrusions have been going on forever and corrupt power has strengthened and perfected itself. In the past we didn't know about any of it.

Then came the Internet. The apparent suddenness of this knowledge is why voters are the way they are today, many believing that much of this info requires tinfoil hats because they never heard of it before. Or pooh-poohing all it because it came out of “thin air.” Fact is the rot is too deep, even for the Geneva Convention.

I posted a link to the Geneva Convention prisoner treatment just above - http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2255496/posts?page=203#203

212 posted on 05/21/2009 2:53:41 PM PDT by Lady Jag (Communism + Hezbollah + Al Qaeda + Obama + StoneAge = CHAOS)
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To: ElayneJ

I’ll have to take you word for that, but “preventive detention” cannot - repeat CANNOT - be a good thing. obama is growing bolder by the day.


Not only not good, not constitutional.


213 posted on 05/21/2009 2:56:57 PM PDT by Freedom56v2 (If you think health care is expensive now, just wait till it is free PJ Orourke)
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To: Sig Sauer P220

terrorism suspects = white Christians and Conservatives.

There Fixed it.


214 posted on 05/21/2009 3:00:25 PM PDT by puppypusher (The world is going to the dogs.)
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To: markomalley
If he tries a Preventive Detention on US soil then it will surely be ruled unconstitutional. He could leave GITMO alone and not even have to label it.
215 posted on 05/21/2009 3:00:39 PM PDT by tobyhill (Obama's a has-been that never was.)
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To: reaganaut1

“If Bush had proposed the same thing, would we be calling him a Nazi? “

We know the dims would, fer sure. They already did...

In any case, we cannot trust O, you know - which presents the biggest differential between Bush and bammy. We cannot trust O and he has not presented even his own basic information, which just underscores that his actual agenda and integrity are a complete mystery. Perhaps the nazi comparisons are a bit much, but what has he left us to go on? Not much. I then find this is zero’s own fault, for not presenting himself with more integrity.


216 posted on 05/21/2009 3:07:08 PM PDT by SeattleBruce (God, Family, Country and the Tea Party! Take America Back!)
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To: reaganaut1

These where captured on a battlefield in the act of fighting the USA.

Do you want returning veterans , NRA members, boy scouts, Christians, and republicans arrested to prevent extremism? yes or no?


217 posted on 05/21/2009 3:12:25 PM PDT by omega4179 (Boycott government communist tractor factories!)
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To: ichabod1

Too bad you can’t read it - it’s a pretty funny dirty limerick.


218 posted on 05/21/2009 3:17:57 PM PDT by Psycho_Bunny (ALSO SPRACH ZEROTHUSTRA)
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To: massgopguy

>>> Starting with Bill Ayers?

Umm... dont forget just WHO they just recently called “terrorists”.

Former military,
Christians,
Constitutional conservatives,
Right wing republicans,
etc., etc.


219 posted on 05/21/2009 3:34:42 PM PDT by Safrguns
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To: tobyhill
If he tries a Preventive Detention on US soil then it will surely be ruled unconstitutional. He could leave GITMO alone and not even have to label it.

Interesting thing about that type of law: who's going to enforce it?

Go back to 1930s Germany. A separate organization, known as the Geheime Staatspolizei was created. Any thoughts as to why? Germany traditionally had a Federal structure -- most law enforcement was at the State level (a Landespolizei) vice the Federal level. Without direct control, it would be difficult to enforce the "Ordnung des Reichspräsidenten zum Schutz von Volk und Staat" (Order of the Reich President for the Protection of People and State) which gave the preventive custody powers to the Federal government. The existence of the Gestapo (Geheime Staatspolizei) co-opted each state's Kriminalpolizeiamt (criminal investigative office) and allowed the federal government to do as it pleased.

In this country, we already have an extensive police power. By my count, there are over 70 separate law enforcement agencies at the Federal level (not including military police, which are limited by the Posse Comitatus statute). What if those police agencies were coordinated and if they were augmented by, say, a civilian national security force:

"We cannot continue to rely only on our military in order to achieve the national security objectives we've set. We've got to have a civilian national security force that's just as powerful, just as strong, just as well funded."

Barrack Obama, 2 July 2008

Who's going to go against such a power from the liberal democrats? The courts? Well, if they try, Congress (controlled by Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid) can simply pass an slightly modified version of the Judiciary Reorganization Bill of 1937 and that will quickly take care of the situation.

220 posted on 05/21/2009 3:43:40 PM PDT by markomalley (Extra Ecclesiam nulla salus)
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