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"Yankees Suck" Offends Texas Rangers' Delicate Sensitivities
nbcnewyork.com ^ | 5/29/2009 | Puppage

Posted on 05/29/2009 4:59:20 AM PDT by Puppage

A Texas Rangers’ fan who wore a "Yankees Suck" shirt to Tuesday's game against New York was told by a security guard to change it -- or she would be kicked out.

"He came down and said, ‘You have to change that shirt,’” said Kristen Knapp-Webb, of Carrollton. “I said, 'But it's not profane. Why do I have to change my shirt?' He said, 'The Texas Rangers organization considers that shirt to be profane.'"

The Rangers implemented a code of conduct for fans several years ago after some people complained they were offended by shirts such as hers, a team spokesman said.

"That particular phrase is one we’ve received a lot of complaints about," said Rangers spokesman John Blake. "That kind of thing is offensive to a lot of people, especially if you have young children and that kind of thing. And I think that's why we have that policy."

Knapp-Webb and her husband, Walter, said they consider themselves loyal Rangers fans. They even named their dog "Ranger."

They had gone to the game Tuesday to celebrate their 19th wedding anniversary. He wore a Texas Rangers jersey, and she wore the "Yankees Suck" shirt her husband gave her for an anniversary gift.

No other fans seemed offended by her shirt and, in fact, many laughed, she said.

"It's funny," she said. "It's the thing fans do to each other to razz them, to make them laugh (and) have a good time."

But before the rain-delayed game started, she said, a security guard told her she had to turn the shirt inside out, change it or leave the ballpark.

"I understand it's private property," Knapp-Webb said. "But they can't not offend every person who walks in that door. It's not possible."

Under protest, she went to a restroom and turned the shirt inside out. She and her husband decided to leave a short time later, before the game started.

She said she hopes the Rangers clarify their policy.

"I think 'profanity' needs a definition, and I don't think 'sucks' is included," Knapp-Webb said.

The Rangers’ Code of Conduct states, "Any person wearing clothing with language… that may be offensive to another guest may be denied entry into the stadium, or ejected from the stadium without refund."


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To: Jim Noble

I agree...


41 posted on 05/29/2009 5:34:25 AM PDT by joeu01
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To: MrB
I liked the other guy’s response better...

For the record. I don't care and never will care what a Yankee likes. Yankees Suck. Good tagline material...

42 posted on 05/29/2009 5:38:09 AM PDT by central_va (www.15thVirginia.org Co. C, Patrick Henry Rifles)
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To: Albion Wilde
Somebody ought to wear a shirt that says, "Down with Socialism" and see what happens.

I recall any national stories about offended people complaining about all those Bush Sucks tee shirts. Or, worse, complaining about the movie about the assination of GW.

43 posted on 05/29/2009 5:39:57 AM PDT by Puppage (You may disagree with what I have to say, but I shall defend to your death my right to say it)
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To: saganite
We are rocking! I love Swisher, he is a nice surprise!
44 posted on 05/29/2009 5:40:17 AM PDT by angcat ("When the strong man, fully armed, guards his own dwelling, his goods are safe".)
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To: MrB

Wear a t-shirt that says:

“I wasn’t born in Texas but I got here as fast as I could.”

or

“You may all go to hell. I am going to Texas.” David Crockett


45 posted on 05/29/2009 5:50:49 AM PDT by nanetteclaret (Unreconstructed Catholic Texan)
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To: Puppage
BTW, if you try to wear a "Boston Sucks" T-Shirt at Yankee Stadium you will be forced to remove it (or turn it around). It's a small victory for decency.

Sports venues have to trade off the wishes of one set of fans who want to express themselves against the rest who have to see their shirts, signs, etc. If they don't draw a line somewhere, you know the messages will degenerate further. The Yankees, and apparently the Rangers, have decided to draw the line at "Sucks". I agree with their decisions. Wish our shopping malls would do the same.

I did find the use of "Sucks" funny once on TV. There was a drippy show called the Silver Spoons. John Houseman was a guest star and people were assuming he liked some painting. In his best, stuffy British voice he rebuked them saying: "I think it sucks." The shock value (him, back then) was funny.

46 posted on 05/29/2009 5:51:07 AM PDT by Dilbert56 (Harry Reid, D-Nev.: "We're going to pick up Senate seats as a result of this war.")
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To: central_va

What if one lives in a majority liberal state south of the Mason-Dixon?

;)


47 posted on 05/29/2009 5:54:37 AM PDT by FourtySeven (47)
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To: FourtySeven

Oooh. Nicely played.


48 posted on 05/29/2009 5:58:54 AM PDT by MattinNJ (Sanford/Palin in 2012)
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To: Puppage
The word "suck" is profane and offensive. It is a sexual vulgarity. Say "stink" instead.
49 posted on 05/29/2009 5:59:42 AM PDT by Charles Henrickson (56 years old)
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To: nanetteclaret

I tell you what,
from the responses here,
Texas, not Virginia, will be getting my “material” support
when the balloon goes up.


50 posted on 05/29/2009 6:00:12 AM PDT by MrB (Go Galt now, Bowman later)
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To: texteacher
the word “sucks” was profane and vulgar as it referred to oral sex.

That's exactly what I was talking about in my post 49, and that is the reason it should not be used in polite society.

51 posted on 05/29/2009 6:03:35 AM PDT by Charles Henrickson (56 years old)
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To: Puppage

>>>The Rangers implemented a code of conduct for fans several years ago after some people complained they were offended by shirts such as hers, a team spokesman said.

Bush’s fault?


52 posted on 05/29/2009 6:11:09 AM PDT by NC28203
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To: Puppage
All,

Let me give you a different perspective as I attend Rangers games quite frequently.

Unlike some of your winning clubs like Red Sox, Yankees etc, our Rangers are pretty much awful. We have never won a Pennant.

Thus, what has happened to the Rangers is that the type of people we get to our games is VERY different than the type of people I have seen in ORD, BOS or NYC. In those cities you get a good mix of team fanatic men and families.

With us it is mostly families. We almost resemble a Minor League baseball team in our atmosphere. Lots of young families with tons of small kids. Half empty stadium. People there mostly to show their kids a good time and build bonding time with them.

As such, you can well imagine, our attitude in the ballpark is well like it would be if you were at a Disney park. We think of this as a family place and a young kids place.

So a word like “suck” (which definitely many of us in the South find cheap and tacky) is definitely out of place here.

Not trying to sound too goody goody and Christiany here. Just giving you an alternate view.

Cheers!

53 posted on 05/29/2009 6:12:00 AM PDT by SoftwareEngineer
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To: SoftwareEngineer

This Red Sox fan would be very happy with Derek Jeter at Short Stop for us.


54 posted on 05/29/2009 6:12:50 AM PDT by massgopguy (I owe everything to George Bailey)
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To: Dilbert56

“That team sure did suck last night. They just plain sucked! I’ve seen teams suck before, but they were the suckiest bunch of sucks that ever sucked!”


55 posted on 05/29/2009 6:15:23 AM PDT by dfwgator (1996 2006 2008 - Good Things Come in Threes)
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To: Puppage
Maybe something a bit more polite would be in order...




56 posted on 05/29/2009 6:26:29 AM PDT by Bean Counter (Stout Hearts....)
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To: Puppage
Back in the 60s, the college I attended expelled four students who, at a basketball game, chanted, "(opponent's-name-here) Sucks!"

The common opinion was that they got what they deserved.

And this was an all-male college.

57 posted on 05/29/2009 6:26:44 AM PDT by HIDEK6
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To: texteacher
During my younger days, the word “sucks” was profane and vulgar as it referred to oral sex.

*shrug* Meanings change over time. 'Snafu' and 'scumbag' have vulgar origins but are in commonplace use even in polite company.

58 posted on 05/29/2009 6:47:04 AM PDT by Sloth (The Second Amendment is the ultimate "term limit.")
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To: MattinNJ; central_va

LOL, thanks but it really was meant as a friendly jab at central_va; for the record, I was referencing my own state, er “People’s Republic” of Maryland.

I actually don’t consider Maryland as part of the south, in my mind at least, even though it is technically south of the Mason-Dixon line. This state, or more precisely, Baltimore and PG county are such a joke it’s not even funny. I’ve pretty much given up on local politics around here.


59 posted on 05/29/2009 6:49:23 AM PDT by FourtySeven (47)
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To: Puppage

From the Merriam-Webster on line dictionary: suck 4slang : to be objectionable or inadequate The article, and some of the comments, read like we are letting “them” steal the language again.


60 posted on 05/29/2009 6:54:16 AM PDT by KrisKrinkle (Blessed be those who know the depth and breadth of their ignorance. Cursed be those who don't.)
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