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To: kellynla
Note to Democratic leaders or staffers that may be lurking here. The longer this goes on before being ultimately resolved, the worse your downside exposure is.

If obama is eligible, fine, get this resolved now rather than having an ongoing cloud hanging over the administration.

If, as I am beginning to seriously suspect, he is ineligible, it is going to be a nightmare that will make Watergate seem like a minor misunderstanding. Every law, every appointment, everything will be rolled back. The irrevocable actions like money spent, will be years getting cleaned up and resolved. The backlash against the Democratic party will be unprecedented. If the Democrats have been party to the greatest deception of the American people in history... It would call into question every Democrat. They could lose every election for years.

Granted, as a Republican and conservative, a whole lot of pain and suffering for the liberal Democrats, and a tremendous setback for their agenda wouldn't bother me. However, I'm old enough to remember Watergate. I don't want to see the Country go through that again. Even if it comes out now, it'll be about as bad as Watergate. The longer this goes on, the worse the potential is.

The upshot is, this is an appeal to the Democratic leadership - pressure obama to resolve the birth certificate issue now. Doing so is your best move. It will either be all good, or at least limit the damage.

8 posted on 05/30/2009 8:37:42 AM PDT by CodeMasterPhilzar (I'll keep my money, my guns, and my freedom. You can keep the "change.")
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To: CodeMasterPhilzar
I'm going to post this so that EVERYONE who thinks we are powerless to do something about this understands how best to go about it. We need to find the legal remedy enabling us to charge our representatives with disobeying their oaths of office and start removing them one by one. Here is the case.

Exhibit A, The Twentieth Amendment, Section 3 reads as follows:

" ”3. If, at the time fixed for the beginning of the term of the President, the President elect shall have died, the Vice President elect shall become President. If a President shall not have been chosen before the time fixed for the beginning of his term, or if the President elect shall have failed to qualify, then the Vice President elect shall act as President until a President shall have qualified; and the Congress may by law provide for the case wherein neither a President elect nor a Vice President elect shall have qualified, declaring who shall then act as President, or the manner in which one who is to act shall be selected, and such person shall act accordingly until a President or Vice President shall have qualified.

Exhibit B U. S. Code, CITE: 3USC19

TITLE 3--THE PRESIDENT, CHAPTER 1- PRESIDENTIAL ELECTIONS AND VACANCIES

Sec. 19. Vacancy in offices of both President and Vice President; officers eligible to act

”(a)(1) If, by reason of death, resignation, removal from office, inability, or failure to qualify, there is neither a President nor Vice President to discharge the powers and duties of the office of President, then the Speaker of the House of Representatives shall, upon his resignation as Speaker and as Representative in Congress, act as President. “

Exhibit C: U. S. Constitution, Article Six Oath of Office for elected officials:

” The Senators and Representatives before mentioned, and the Members of the several State Legislatures, and all executive and judicial Officers, both of the United States and of the several States, shall be bound by Oath or Affirmation, to support this Constitution; but no religious Test shall ever be required as a Qualification to any Office or public Trust under the United States.”

Exhibit D: The Electoral Vote Counting Act of 1877:

The process currently provides that someone “challenge” the electoral votes during a short, specified time frame while the Electoral College votes are opened and tabulated. This process does not cover challenges to "eligibility" qualifications. In fact, if this act pretends to do so in the manner in which it prescribes, it is unconstitutional. Any act of this sort that does not require that qualifications be presented by the President elect serves to undercut the provisions in the Constitution itself. No act that does not support the Constitution is constitutional. In order to change the requirements of the Twentieth amendment, one would need to pass another amendment. An “Act” doesn’t cut the mustard.

The portion in bold stating “or if the President elect shall have failed to qualify” in section three is particularly interesting in that it plainly seems to infer that a “qualification” of some sort must be made in order to serve as President. Certainly, one cannot argue that it does not require a qualification process for one to “qualify”. To infer that the lack of a “specified” qualification process means that stated eligibility “qualifications” for the office of president can be ignored is fallacious. The wording of this passage in the twentieth amendment clearly infers that a qualification is required, regardless of how this is done.

There is only one set of qualifications listed anywhere in the Constitution that are not health related and they are listed in Article two, section one.

No person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President; neither shall any Person be eligible to that Office who shall not have attained to the Age of thirty-five Years, and been fourteen Years a Resident within the United States.”

To satisfy meeting the requirement of the twentieth amendment to “qualify”, a president elect must present evidence that he meets it’s requirements for eligibility to serve. This means that a proper birth certificate HAD to be presented by the president elect in order to serve as president. If this was done, where is that certificate and to whom was it presented? If this was done, why would we not have the right to verify and inspect it under the freedom of information act?

If it was NOT done, then under the provisions of the twentieth amendment, Barrack Obama has “failed to qualify” and should not be serving as president of the United States of America.

Based upon the above, I conclude that:

1. We currently have a vacancy at President because no one has yet “qualified” as required in the Twentieth amendment. The terms "The President elect shall have failed to qualify" clearly places this burden upon the President elect and not on someone raising their hand in objection.

2. Anyone serving in Congress (see “Congress” in bold in Exhibit A), or anyone who is currently serving under the oath of office in Article six has "standing" and can DEMAND that their oaths be met by receiving proper “qualifying” documentation from Mr. Obama. This charade at the time of counting the Electoral College votes does not limit their ability to do so at any time they so choose. The very fact that they are duty-bound by oath to "support" the Constitution REQUIRES them to respond to any and all attacks against it. No judge can deny any of them the standing to do so. It would ask them to break the law in their effort to enforce the law.

3. We need to start pressing legal charges against all of our local representatives and senators covered by the oath of office in Article six for disobeying their oaths to support the Constitution as it pertains to the language of section three of the Twentieth amendment. Put PRESSURE on them to represent the document that gives them their authority in the first place. We are looking into how best to do this down here. We all should be looking into this approach. NOW.

10 posted on 05/30/2009 9:21:51 AM PDT by Uncle Sham
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To: CodeMasterPhilzar
Note to Democratic leaders or staffers that may be lurking here. The longer this goes on before being ultimately resolved, the worse your downside exposure is.

Those who conspire to continue the fraud are as guilty as the perpetrator himself. Expect prosecutions...

25 posted on 05/31/2009 9:20:30 AM PDT by April Lexington (Study the constitution so you know what they are taking away!)
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To: CodeMasterPhilzar
Quite possibly the game is to do a much as possible(obama moves at break neck speed along with 17 presidential proclamations) before they are discovered and when they are claim that so much has been done they could not possibly over turn it all.
34 posted on 05/31/2009 10:02:15 AM PDT by rodguy911 (HOME OF THE FREE BECAUSE OF THE BRAVE--GO SARAHCUDA !!)
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To: CodeMasterPhilzar

Before it may have been his attorneys were just playing games. Stuff like this just about convinces me he is not eligible and it is a total coverup.


44 posted on 05/31/2009 10:35:44 AM PDT by Frantzie
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