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To: bvw

If someone comes at you or your family with a gun, that’s entirely different than if you pick up a gun and go shoot someone down who was not confronting you or your family.


62 posted on 06/01/2009 12:57:13 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Obama is mentally a child of ten. Just remember that when he makes statements and issues policy.)
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To: DoughtyOne
You miss the bigger point. The Rule of Law has been seriously harmed by Obama's dictatorial and arbitrary rule, and with the currents of social deconstruction by despotism and perversion which have been entered into law and regulation. Thus it is no longer a matter of personal choice to obey "The Law" just because it is the law. Each is left to his own judgment. The law -- case law, statute law, regulation -- is no longer a guide.

Today there are Laws all GOOD citizens must dis-obey. Today there are Natural Laws which are outlaw, which good citizens must do their best to see are still upheld. Just so we can survive through a few more generations.

And what happens when the elite law-makers of a society turn on it, turn against teh natural good order of society and man? Individuals are compelled to act to their own judgment, and some of those judgments will be tragically bad.

These are most difficult times. What was right is now wrong. What was wrong is now right. The Law is become despotic, venal, corrupting.

We do not yet have the recourse that the Founders did, when they set forth the legal bill of grievances known as The Declaration of Independence. They wrote:

When in the Course of human events it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve [the government and regular process of law] which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation.

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. — That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, — That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness.

Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security.

We are caught here. Government HAS been long suffered by the People, it is now grown intolerably despotic. How do I measure this? Best by the bastardy rate! Two out of five children born to unmarried mothers. OUR time's despotism is suffered by the broken families, by the young raised without Fathers, by a government sponsored and promoted sexual amorality that demands grade-schoolers be trained in sexual perversions and that we celebrate homosexual "marriage". Adultery is no longer a crime, Sexual disease is rampant in college sophomores.

Those things alone are enough! And yet the government's despotism hasn't stopped there. Contract law is now nullified -- the car company and bank bonds are contracts subject no only to the day-to-day goodwill of the Regent -- usurper Obama. Property is taken by whimsy of government (Kelo v New London). People who live on top of great bodies of ground water, or lakes and rivers are prevented by niggardly regulation from having decent bathroom showers.

Yet the Founders were wise -- not only was it needed to have insufferable despostism long suffered (the state we are now in), but also we must have the ability to initiate and establish alternative government. They had an alternative -- the local and colony governments were the alternative. We, in our time do not.

We are in a much tougher spot.

What happens? What we are seeing. Breakdown in the actual law and order.

81 posted on 06/01/2009 1:38:25 PM PDT by bvw
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